Making an A&K M60 Skrimishable...

FoxhoundNB · May 25th, 2011, 22:49

Most of the information on the M60 is chairsoft-ish. While it being pretty and full of fun little features, I very rarely hear what it's actual performance/reliability in the field is like.

So I'm wondering; what upgrades do you guys consider "mandatory" (beyond the obvious gearbox re-shim) to make the A&K M60 skrimishable?

Thanks

ShelledPants · May 25th, 2011, 23:02

None. We fielded the A&K M60 last weekened and it performed admirably. Shooting 380fps and .30's. It's a beast.

R.I.T.Z · May 25th, 2011, 23:03

Which m60?
the VN or the Seals one?

Danneichh · May 25th, 2011, 23:06

They're both the same internally. I would suggest a battery.

In all seriousness, A&K SAW's all perform extremely well out of the box.

Spike · May 25th, 2011, 23:06

One of the local gun docs runs one, all he did was give it a re-shim and replaced the piston (he's running a lipo on it).

FoxhoundNB · May 25th, 2011, 23:07

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants

None. We fielded the A&K M60 last weekened and it performed admirably. Shooting 380fps and .30's. It's a beast.

That's great to hear

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z

Which m60?
the VN or the Seals one?

It's the VN, for extra bad-assery.

It should be arriving soon, I kinda worried about its game-ability, being an A&K; I haven't had good experiences so far. What about long term reliability? Is there anything that I should expect to break soon-ish and get a replacement part lined up?

Renegade) · May 25th, 2011, 23:07

Short and simple. Reshim like you said, proper gearbox lube. I added a 650 mm Madbull Python tightbore, and a new hopup rubber. I also modified the hopup nubbin as well, gives me really nice range and accuracy.

My M60 can zero in on a target over 200 feet away very consistently.

Going to put ALOT of rounds through it, leave the spring stock, less gearbox wear, more shots off. As long as your comfy with the range, leave it be.

FoxhoundNB · May 25th, 2011, 23:19

That's really comforting to hear, I'm even more excited now.

Did you find a huge difference in range with the new hop-up/barrel? My experience is pretty hit-and-miss with upgraded barrels/hop ups.

Do you think it was worth the cost to get the extra range and accuracy out of it?

shiftsup · May 25th, 2011, 23:33

The only issue I had with my A&K M60VN was with the hop up. The rubber was not installed properly and there was no nub in the hop up unit. The rubber was installed in such a way that a bb could not pass through the barrel. Be sure to give it a once over before you fire a round. Other than that I have no complaints.

Renegade) · May 25th, 2011, 23:46

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Originally Posted by FoxhoundNB

That's really comforting to hear, I'm even more excited now.

Did you find a huge difference in range with the new hop-up/barrel? My experience is pretty hit-and-miss with upgraded barrels/hop ups.

Do you think it was worth the cost to get the extra range and accuracy out of it?

Yes on all counts. Put it this way, buddy brought said A&K M60VN over to my place for a tech/range shoot day. M60 shot nice, but not amazing, hopup was a little off...
He gave me the new CA hopup and barrel to instal. Painless installation, put in a full size nub instead of a half cut one that was in it.
I ended up buying it after I shot it again... Full auto, sexy beast, lazer beam of bb's... Very adjustable range, very tight groupings, and I was using .25's, I am very curious to try .28s. God I love being a BB Bastard

dutch13 · May 26th, 2011, 00:54

I run an A&K M60E4 and don't mind it. Only issues are the seal between the hop and mechbox. Considering the front end can be removed, I've never had a good seal between the two. As well, the box mag has to be modded so the feed tube runs square with the body, or major misfires will happen.

sushicake · May 26th, 2011, 01:41

Might wanna check the air nozzle A&K is hit and miss with theirs, you'll have some that seal beautifully and some that leak faster than a balloon.

voorhees -FWA- · May 26th, 2011, 15:15

I run an A&K M60VN... There was very poor QC on this thing.

Body screws were loose, gearbox screws were loose, poorly shimmed, the hop up unit was non-functional (had to drill the hole for the bucking, which I replaced with a piece of Bic ink reservoir tube instead of the rubber one that was stock), too many white metal pieces; the barrel retention lever broke (replaced with a metal one machined at a local machine shop), the bipod mount is currently broken (looking to replace with a real steel version if and when I find one), and the carry handle feels very weak (also looking for a real steel replacement) and finally the feed spring for the BBs was not lined up and wouldn't feed (I ended up shortening the spring and cutting a hole in the box magazine and the cover so it would line up straight)...

All in all... a decent LMG once all the bugs were ironed out... would I buy another one, or would have I bought this one knowing it would be so problematic? No!

voorhees -FWA- · May 26th, 2011, 19:13

If you can find them, the bipod mount is only $50US. The legs are fine, I just broke the mount...

You should take your OEM hop up and make sure that the bucking can go all the way thru the hole. Mine didn't there was a piece of white metal in the way from the cast. Then cut a piece of a Bic pen ink reservoir tube, just a little longer than the standard buck and try that. My hop up works great now because of this.

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May 25th, 2011, 22:49	#1
FoxhoundNB Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fredericton NB	Making an A&K M60 Skrimishable... Most of the information on the M60 is chairsoft-ish. While it being pretty and full of fun little features, I very rarely hear what it's actual performance/reliability in the field is like. So I'm wondering; what upgrades do you guys consider "mandatory" (beyond the obvious gearbox re-shim) to make the A&K M60 skrimishable? Thanks

May 25th, 2011, 23:02	#2
ShelledPants Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto, On	None. We fielded the A&K M60 last weekened and it performed admirably. Shooting 380fps and .30's. It's a beast. __________________ Ár skal r?*sa, sá er annars vill fé eða fjör hafa. Sjaldan liggjandi úlfur lær um getur né sofandi maður sigur.

May 25th, 2011, 23:06	#4
Danneichh Danneichh Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Shelburne, Ontario, Canada	They're both the same internally. I would suggest a battery. In all seriousness, A&K SAW's all perform extremely well out of the box. __________________ Primary: KWA LM4 PTR, Classic Army LWRC M6 A2, Classic Army G36E, AGM/Javelin MP44. Secondary: KWA Mk. 4 1911, KWA Mac 11, Skeleton Sidearms 8" .357 revolver.

May 25th, 2011, 23:03	#3
R.I.T.Z Crackers Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Shwa	Which m60? the VN or the Seals one?

May 25th, 2011, 23:06	#5
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	One of the local gun docs runs one, all he did was give it a re-shim and replaced the piston (he's running a lipo on it). __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

May 25th, 2011, 23:07	#7
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	Short and simple. Reshim like you said, proper gearbox lube. I added a 650 mm Madbull Python tightbore, and a new hopup rubber. I also modified the hopup nubbin as well, gives me really nice range and accuracy. My M60 can zero in on a target over 200 feet away very consistently. Going to put ALOT of rounds through it, leave the spring stock, less gearbox wear, more shots off. As long as your comfy with the range, leave it be. __________________ W1-5

May 25th, 2011, 23:19	#8
FoxhoundNB Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fredericton NB	That's really comforting to hear, I'm even more excited now. Did you find a huge difference in range with the new hop-up/barrel? My experience is pretty hit-and-miss with upgraded barrels/hop ups. Do you think it was worth the cost to get the extra range and accuracy out of it?

May 26th, 2011, 00:54	#11
dutch13 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manitoba	I run an A&K M60E4 and don't mind it. Only issues are the seal between the hop and mechbox. Considering the front end can be removed, I've never had a good seal between the two. As well, the box mag has to be modded so the feed tube runs square with the body, or major misfires will happen.

May 26th, 2011, 01:41	#12
sushicake Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Markham, ON	Might wanna check the air nozzle A&K is hit and miss with theirs, you'll have some that seal beautifully and some that leak faster than a balloon. __________________ "Don't you know the first law of physics? Anything fun costs atleast $8"

May 26th, 2011, 15:15	#13
voorhees -FWA- Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Estevan, Saskatchewan	I run an A&K M60VN... There was very poor QC on this thing. Body screws were loose, gearbox screws were loose, poorly shimmed, the hop up unit was non-functional (had to drill the hole for the bucking, which I replaced with a piece of Bic ink reservoir tube instead of the rubber one that was stock), too many white metal pieces; the barrel retention lever broke (replaced with a metal one machined at a local machine shop), the bipod mount is currently broken (looking to replace with a real steel version if and when I find one), and the carry handle feels very weak (also looking for a real steel replacement) and finally the feed spring for the BBs was not lined up and wouldn't feed (I ended up shortening the spring and cutting a hole in the box magazine and the cover so it would line up straight)... All in all... a decent LMG once all the bugs were ironed out... would I buy another one, or would have I bought this one knowing it would be so problematic? No! Last edited by voorhees -FWA-; May 26th, 2011 at 15:18..

May 26th, 2011, 19:13	#14
voorhees -FWA- Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Estevan, Saskatchewan	If you can find them, the bipod mount is only $50US. The legs are fine, I just broke the mount... You should take your OEM hop up and make sure that the bucking can go all the way thru the hole. Mine didn't there was a piece of white metal in the way from the cast. Then cut a piece of a Bic pen ink reservoir tube, just a little longer than the standard buck and try that. My hop up works great now because of this.

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