Guarder Enhanced Loading Muzzle for TM G17: An In-depth Review

[e-luder]

Originally Posted by mmmken

Has anyone considered the simple idea that we could just be breaking these nozzles ourselves? Perhaps the bottom of the nozzle is slightly off spec and bigger, causing it to make hard contact with the magazine every time you slam it in. This is a pretty common problem with GBB's (particularly on old KSC M11's and MP9's).

Perhaps if someone has a spare Guarder nozzle, they could test it by only inserting a magazine in when the slide is locked back?

Well, I don't know if that can cause a break like this tho. The break appears to be on ther side of the contact point with the magazine. If the magazine was to break the muzzle, I think the in take hole is where you'd first find the signs.

But it should make for an interesting expirement....

[MaciekA]

Man, the consistency of the cracks across all the muzzles is striking.

[GSK88]

Originally Posted by mmmken

Has anyone considered the simple idea that we could just be breaking these nozzles ourselves? Perhaps the bottom of the nozzle is slightly off spec and bigger, causing it to make hard contact with the magazine every time you slam it in. This is a pretty common problem with GBB's (particularly on old KSC M11's and MP9's).

Perhaps if someone has a spare Guarder nozzle, they could test it by only inserting a magazine in when the slide is locked back?

I highly doubt that, I installed the nozzle and got off one shot. If cracked the nozzle, 2nd shot broke it completely. 2nd nozzle was the same story. Installed it, inserted the mag and got off 10-20 shots this time before it broke. All on one mag insert.

Odd part is, my stock TM nozzle has a crack in the same place. I've used different combos to see what happens, same result.

PGC Slide / Barrel
PGC Slide / Guarder barrel.