Is a 11.1 volt 25c lipo too strong?

[KarlR]

Thats cool, sounds like it would make for a gearbox lifetime extender. Save me some money in the long run. Do you ever use the burst function? I suppose becuase the next two shots are followed so closely after the first they would reduce the motor heat up. Unless it uses active breaking in burst mode, dose it? That would increase motor heat up as far as I know.

Also total sidetrack here, but what are you opinions of VFC pistons? I've hard good and bad things about them.

[ThunderCactus]

active breaking is always active, but yes it would actually reduce the heat compared to 3 individual shots in semi.
As a gunsmith I prefer burst since it's easier on the motor
As a shooter, I hate burst because the last 2 shots are uncontrolled, unless there's a burst cancel function like the old triggermasters that actually stops the burst if you take your finger off the trigger.

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by KarlR

Thats cool, sounds like it would make for a gearbox lifetime extender. Save me some money in the long run. Do you ever use the burst function? I suppose becuase the next two shots are followed so closely after the first they would reduce the motor heat up. Unless it uses active breaking in burst mode, dose it? That would increase motor heat up as far as I know.

Also total sidetrack here, but what are you opinions of VFC pistons? I've hard good and bad things about them.

I use the burst function because I don't want to waste BBs. At 30RPS you go through ammo pretty quickly if you don't have any self discipline.

SHS Motors are great handwarmers. Lonex's not so much. It's partly why we stopped carrying SHS motors and exclusively carry Lonex now. For another 15 dollars you can get a motor that outshines anything on the market. Lonex motors are just far more efficient.

VFC Pistons - got two lying around - took them out of two VFCs I have and promptly replaced them with Lonex and SHS pistons. Not a fan of polycarbonate.

Side note and tangent: VFC gearbox piston rails seem to be fatter than other manufacturers. Make sure you test out Lonex and SHS pistons during install to make sure they slide freely. Some sanding/fitment may be required.

John

[KarlR]

Are SHS the motors in VFC gearboxes?

Bummer to hear about the VFC pistons, I was looking at the lonex red, is it compatible with VFC stock gears? If so I'll probably pick it up.

On that same topic, what is your opinion of aluminum piston heads?

Also some one told me at my local store that you need a cylinder head or piston head to correct angel of engagement. I dont think that's true, but my m16 is the first gun I'm going to correct the AOE on, so I'm not sure.

[lurkingknight]

g36... boxmag and 38 rps.




hmmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Stealth

I use the burst function because I don't want to waste BBs. At 30RPS you go through ammo pretty quickly if you don't have any self discipline.

SHS Motors are great handwarmers. Lonex's not so much. It's partly why we stopped carrying SHS motors and exclusively carry Lonex now. For another 15 dollars you can get a motor that outshines anything on the market. Lonex motors are just far more efficient.

VFC Pistons - got two lying around - took them out of two VFCs I have and promptly replaced them with Lonex and SHS pistons. Not a fan of polycarbonate.

Side note and tangent: VFC gearbox piston rails seem to be fatter than other manufacturers. Make sure you test out Lonex and SHS pistons during install to make sure they slide freely. Some sanding/fitment may be required.

John

[bug519]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

I was going to say, I wouldn't run it without a mosfet lol
However the reason it's tripping the fuse is because the FUSE is overloading, not necessarily the battery.
So your batt can handle 16.5A, but maybe it's only a 12 or 15A resettable fuse?
Either way, it's a good warning sign.
Is your grip getting REALLY hot after 20 fast shots of semi auto? If so, you should seriously consider getting your mechbox reshimmed, or a new motor.

I had to get something beefier than a triggermaster for my 249 because it kept blowing the fuse with G&P motors (M120 and M140, both professionally tuned). I switched to an EF1300 and it drew WAY less amperage, also has way better performance when hot.

I haven't noticed the grip getting hot, I have thought it seemed warm, but just assumed it was from my hand. Ill test further. Mechbox is in good order, motor could be on the way out. Its just not as snappy as it should be, my KA m4 with a 9.6 allows me to pull the trigger quite a bit faster.

Stealth- ya I have it configured properly as per the online guide (its 11.1 btw), I was actually concerned the 15c was too low and that's what was tripping it, I'm new to all this stuff. Also this is not advanced wired, but I was getting 3 round burst somehow at the end of the game last weekend. Could that have been due to the battery getting low on charge?

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by KarlR

Are SHS the motors in VFC gearboxes?

No. VFC uses ferrite motors. Although SHS used to be OEM for King Arms and some other companies in the past for gears and what-not.

Originally Posted by KarlR

Bummer to hear about the VFC pistons, I was looking at the lonex red, is it compatible with VFC stock gears? If so I'll probably pick it up.

Yes it's compatible...

Originally Posted by KarlR

On that same topic, what is your opinion of aluminum piston heads?

No. Adds unnecessary weight to the piston assembly.
Read this:
http://www.airsoftstore.ca/index.php...page=page&id=7

Originally Posted by KarlR

Also some one told me at my local store that you need a cylinder head or piston head to correct angel of engagement. I dont think that's true, but my m16 is the first gun I'm going to correct the AOE on, so I'm not sure.

No. Read article on piston heads above.
Use a "stock" piston head and get a Sorbo Pad to correct AoE. It's $5.
http://www.airsoftstore.ca/index.php...dex&cPath=35_3

Also, stop going to that store and start going to one where you can get advice from people who know what they're talking about.

[Hectic]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

active breaking is always active, but yes it would actually reduce the heat compared to 3 individual shots in semi.
As a gunsmith I prefer burst since it's easier on the motor
As a shooter, I hate burst because the last 2 shots are uncontrolled, unless there's a burst cancel function like the old triggermasters that actually stops the burst if you take your finger off the trigger.

Yes it does stop burst once you release the trigger so if you tap it youll get one shot if you hold it after that youll get a two round burst. I love the burst function saves ammo and puts the three rounds down range for those run n gun situations and hits three rounds in the same general area to supress the enemy beter tho yes i agree even with the slight vibration an aeg makes the two folowing shots are not on target with the first one but they are close enough thatvif you miss with one the next should hit and i find it works well for those quick point n shoot times when you dont have time to actually aim at your target

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

g36... boxmag and 38 rps.
hmmmmmmm

Sounds like you need BBs for that box mag... Wink wink

Originally Posted by bug519

Stealth- ya I have it configured properly as per the online guide (its 11.1 btw), I was actually concerned the 15c was too low and that's what was tripping it, I'm new to all this stuff. Also this is not advanced wired, but I was getting 3 round burst somehow at the end of the game last weekend. Could that have been due to the battery getting low on charge?

I would run through all the settings again to make sure everything is set properly.

You can still get burst in simple wired mode. I just find it odd that you are getting burst without enabling it.

Do you have a multimeter or lipo cell checker handy? Test out your battery when it is fully charged. It should read 12.6v and all cells should read 4.2v plus minus 0.1v.

John

[bug519]

Will do, thanks stealth!

Didn't realize I could get burst mode, ill go through it all again and make sure everything is setup correctly.

Ill look into getting my lipo checked aswell.
Thanks again

[lurkingknight]

Originally Posted by Stealth

Sounds like you need BBs for that box mag... Wink wink

sounds like Ineed a boxmag first. :P

can't seem to find any feedback or reviews on any of them except the STAR/ARES one won't feed beyond 20rps, and the dboys one is crap.

That really leaves the a&k one or the CA one.. which costs almost 3x more.

As for ammo, I'm doing a test between green devils, your sekret ammo and goldenballs.

unfortunately green devils are only .28, and the goldenballs are .28 and .30... sekret ammo is the only one of the 3 that were available in .32

[Stealth]

M4 conversion magwell and a M4 box mag?

[ThunderCactus]

I used to run 3 shot burst, but found it was just useless. Its just as easy to just get 3 rounds off on full auto, and then you also have full auto if you need it.