TM M16A2 upgrades advise

dami · December 19th, 2005, 16:26

Hey all,
This is the list of upgrades that will go into my M16A2:
=========================================
PDI 170%
Area 1000 Oilless Bushings
Guarder Spring Guide for Gearbox Ver 2
Area 1000 Poly Carbonate Piston
Marui M16/M4/SR chamber blocks---to fix the wobble
9.6V 2400mah large battery
=========================================
I am not a professional in upgrades. That's why I'm posting this to find out how people changed their toys. I've been given a few answers as if you don't need such a powerful PDI(so drop it to 150%). I looked at the springcharts from asc, arnies, they make sense. Difference is I'll be using 0.25g BBz not 0.2g and fps drops ~40.
A review
http://filairsoft.com/cgi-bin/yabb/Y...num=1095081100 ---from Filipino Airsoft
was saying you need the poly carbonate piston under m140/PDI240% and aluminium piston over that %.
"Stock Gears can handle up to M130, SP130, PDI190% with a 9.6v 1700mah(min)" ---info from the review link.
Do you actually need all those upgrades above or it's a waste of money, time, and thinking? What would you suggest?
Thank you,
Danny

ILLusion · December 19th, 2005, 16:31

dami, just got your PMs now. answering them at the moment.

dami · December 19th, 2005, 16:37

nice picture, and thx

Spitfire · December 19th, 2005, 17:04

yes, gears might make it... but the GBshell... well mine broke... i'd recomend you a systema complete mechabox with a m120 inside... will live long... to fix the barrelwhobble: buy a one piece outerbarrel ;-)

trufret · December 19th, 2005, 20:45

one piece outter barrel and metal body. then you have a sturdy club if you run out of ammo ;-)

Spitfire · December 20th, 2005, 07:08

or alternative: buy a g&p m16a2... there you have fullmetall, Bearbox with 360 fps... will be cheaper then invest loads of money into a m16 from TM...

Greylocks · December 20th, 2005, 07:22

Spitfire, I know you are trying to be helpful, but many of your suggestions are too close to the general limits of power we use in Canada.
In general, AEG are set for a Maximum of 400fps almost anywhere. That speed is an upper limit, not a goal to reach.
Some places allow more power, but normally that's about it.
A standard speed that works well in most guns is about 340-360fps. It can be done with very little trouble and expenses.
You can probably get parts and things in Switzerland that we cant because of our importation laws. That too changes what can happen here.
So please keep that in mind?

All you need for 340-360fps is a set of bushings, a spring, and experience to install it all. That's it.

Spitfire · December 20th, 2005, 07:28

yep i understand...
but still, i think it will be cheaper to buy g&p... they have to much fps... so try g&g they have less... like this: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper..._cat_GG%20AEGs
340-360 fps, just perfect wiehout any modification or experience...
(could you please tell me the rulez for airsoftgunz in canada? i dunno them, and i dun want make truble...)

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December 19th, 2005, 16:26	#1
dami Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: GTA	TM M16A2 upgrades advise Hey all, This is the list of upgrades that will go into my M16A2: ========================================= PDI 170% Area 1000 Oilless Bushings Guarder Spring Guide for Gearbox Ver 2 Area 1000 Poly Carbonate Piston Marui M16/M4/SR chamber blocks---to fix the wobble 9.6V 2400mah large battery ========================================= I am not a professional in upgrades. That's why I'm posting this to find out how people changed their toys. I've been given a few answers as if you don't need such a powerful PDI(so drop it to 150%). I looked at the springcharts from asc, arnies, they make sense. Difference is I'll be using 0.25g BBz not 0.2g and fps drops ~40. A review http://filairsoft.com/cgi-bin/yabb/Y...num=1095081100 ---from Filipino Airsoft was saying you need the poly carbonate piston under m140/PDI240% and aluminium piston over that %. "Stock Gears can handle up to M130, SP130, PDI190% with a 9.6v 1700mah(min)" ---info from the review link. Do you actually need all those upgrades above or it's a waste of money, time, and thinking? What would you suggest? Thank you, Danny

December 19th, 2005, 16:31	#2
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	dami, just got your PMs now. answering them at the moment. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

December 19th, 2005, 20:45	#5
trufret Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Windsor Ontario	one piece outter barrel and metal body. then you have a sturdy club if you run out of ammo ;-) __________________ My OLD BUY/SELL Rating Site Admin: Windsor Airsoft Club

December 19th, 2005, 16:37	#3
dami Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: GTA	nice picture, and thx

December 19th, 2005, 17:04	#4
Spitfire Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland	yes, gears might make it... but the GBshell... well mine broke... i'd recomend you a systema complete mechabox with a m120 inside... will live long... to fix the barrelwhobble: buy a one piece outerbarrel ;-)

December 20th, 2005, 07:08	#6
Spitfire Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland	or alternative: buy a g&p m16a2... there you have fullmetall, Bearbox with 360 fps... will be cheaper then invest loads of money into a m16 from TM...

December 20th, 2005, 07:22	#7
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Spitfire, I know you are trying to be helpful, but many of your suggestions are too close to the general limits of power we use in Canada. In general, AEG are set for a Maximum of 400fps almost anywhere. That speed is an upper limit, not a goal to reach. Some places allow more power, but normally that's about it. A standard speed that works well in most guns is about 340-360fps. It can be done with very little trouble and expenses. You can probably get parts and things in Switzerland that we cant because of our importation laws. That too changes what can happen here. So please keep that in mind? All you need for 340-360fps is a set of bushings, a spring, and experience to install it all. That's it.

December 20th, 2005, 07:28	#8
Spitfire Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland	yep i understand... but still, i think it will be cheaper to buy g&p... they have to much fps... so try g&g they have less... like this: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper..._cat_GG%20AEGs 340-360 fps, just perfect wiehout any modification or experience... (could you please tell me the rulez for airsoftgunz in canada? i dunno them, and i dun want make truble...)

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