Airsoft Canada
https://blackblitzairsoft.myshopify.com/

Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Upgrades & Modifications
Home Forums Register Gallery FAQ Calendar
Retailers Community News/Info International Retailers IRC Today's Posts

Info on discharging batteries

:

Upgrades & Modifications

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old May 20th, 2006, 12:19   #1
CDN_Stalker
Official ASC Bladesmith
 
CDN_Stalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Ottawa, Ont.
Send a message via MSN to CDN_Stalker
Info on discharging batteries

Just seeing what people find works well (doesn't include chargers with discharging feature, or commercially made discharging units) as far as homemade units goes.

I made one last year that I found took forever to discharge, had a current sink of an LED and a DC fan, but recently I thought about vacuum tubes since I have a lot of expereince with them, have many types kicking around as well as the sockets and such. 12A*7 types, when wired in parallel, the heaters draw 300mA at 6.3VAC/DC. Would this be relatively decent to safely discharge an 8.4 3300mAh battery with a suitable current buffering resistor? Or a suitable resistor hooked up to a 6V6 (900mA) or 6L6 (1800mA) be better/worse? While being relatively familiar with electronics, discharging batteries and the formulas/ratings for such eludes me.
CDN_Stalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2006, 13:38   #2
Mantelope
Scotty aka harleyb
 
Mantelope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Send a message via AIM to Mantelope Send a message via MSN to Mantelope
This will unfortunately add nothing to your discussion, but hopefully prevent some dangerous misinformation: NiMH owners, remember that your batteries do not need to be discharged. There is no advantage to discharging NiMH batteries, and you risk damaging them.
Mantelope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2006, 15:18   #3
MadMax
Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations
 
MadMax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop
If you're already electronics savvy, try regulating the voltage down to say 5 volts with a DC voltage regulator (LM7905?) and running it through a 15ohm power resistor (~330mA). A 8.4v battery would draw down to the regulator cutoff voltage and the regulator would automatically stop the discharge cycle. A diode could be put in series with the battery to apply a 0.7v voltage drop if you wanted to discharge a 9.6v pack too.
__________________
Want nearly free GBB gas?

MadMax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2006, 16:02   #4
CDN_Stalker
Official ASC Bladesmith
 
CDN_Stalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Ottawa, Ont.
Send a message via MSN to CDN_Stalker
Both are good info, particularly the NiMH not needing discharging. Max, you'd agree with that? I was under the impression all batteries would benefit from the occasional complete discharge then recharge.
CDN_Stalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2006, 16:28   #5
MadMax
Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations
 
MadMax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop
I can't say for certain. I though NiMh did suffer from memory effect, but not as badly as NiCd. In any case, very deep discharging damages pretty much any pack. You end up pushing one cell into reversal.
__________________
Want nearly free GBB gas?

MadMax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2006, 16:43   #6
Gryphon
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MB
Consumer nickel-based batteries don't get memory effect. The only time that's been witnessed is in satellites that had extremely rigorous charge-discharge cycles in very specific conditions. What people think is "memory" is in fact voltage depression or as Max said, cell reversal.

NiMHs benefit from a discharge every so often to break up dendrites and keep the electrolyte from crystallizing too heavily, but they don't need it every time. NiCds usually ought to be discharged each cycle but it's not really necessary either. The problem is most chargers aren't intelligent enough to know when to stop in either direction and that kills your packs. Get something that you can change the settings on like the Intellipeak ICE and your packs will last a lot longer because you'll know exactly what's going on with them.
Gryphon is offline   Reply With Quote
ReplyTop


Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Upgrades & Modifications

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Airsoft Canada
https://blackblitzairsoft.myshopify.com/

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:29.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.