AK74 CYMA 031 ($175). Is that a fair price?

[The Saint]

I've actually been here longer than you, Hazard.

All the guys who promote Cyma also happen to be the ones who actually go out and read the reviews instead of basing it purely on early model Cymas. Wouldn't be too surprised if the same guys all have Arnies accounts... Maybe they brainwash people over there with their "chips" and tea times.

Once upon a time, CA was known for its terrible QC and what not. I wasn't here for that, but I do remember when CA actually started to produce ever more reliable AEGs, a lot of the people who only knew the old CA were off handedly dismissive. Nothing wrong with experience, but there are always new experiences coming in, gotta balance the two. Cyma is improving, that's the most important part here. We ultimately all have our own criteria on acceptable pricing and quality, and philosophy on what one should enter the sport with. But let's not slam doors in people's faces for asking thought-provoking questions. Becase those damn Chinese airsoft companies are cloning TM and CA like mad, and they are getting better at it at a pretty alarming speed.

banghead

[damage]

Originally Posted by The Saint

All the guys who promote Cyma also happen to be the ones who actually go out and read the reviews instead of basing it purely on early model Cymas. Wouldn't be too surprised if the same guys all have Arnies accounts... Maybe they brainwash people over there with their "chips" and tea times.

Once upon a time, CA was known for its terrible QC and what not. I wasn't here for that, but I do remember when CA actually started to produce ever more reliable AEGs, a lot of the people who only knew the old CA were off handedly dismissive. Nothing wrong with experience, but there are always new experiences coming in, gotta balance the two. Cyma is improving, that's the most important part here. We ultimately all have our own criteria on acceptable pricing and quality, and philosophy on what one should enter the sport with. But let's not slam doors in people's faces for asking thought-provoking questions. Becase those damn Chinese airsoft companies are cloning TM and CA like mad, and they are getting better at it at a pretty alarming speed.

another +1

Also check out filairsoft.com and look for "low end aeg" section on upgrades and reviews. I read a thread where a Cyma AK47 series had a spring, metal bushing, air nozzle, spring guide etc. upgrade shooting at 450fps.

[kalnaren]

Also check out filairsoft.com and look for "low end aeg" section on upgrades and reviews. I read a thread where a Cyma AK47 series had a spring, metal bushing, air nozzle, spring guide etc. upgrade shooting at 450fps.

While I'm not convinced new CYMA guns are crap, wouldn't that amount of upgrades kindof break it? I didn't think they were THAT upgradable. And btw how much did those upgrades cost?

[aZn_triXta07]

The AK74 is a clone of the CA SLR, there are chinese aftermarket metal bodies for it. Check it out at GunnerAirsoft.com even if you have a broker don't waste your time inquiring, the owner ignores all Canadians lol

[damage]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

While I'm not convinced new CYMA guns are crap, wouldn't that amount of upgrades kindof break it? I didn't think they were THAT upgradable. And btw how much did those upgrades cost?

They are upgradable but not recommended as a starter gun. For the upgrades according to what I read. They swap the parts from used or brand new. I am not sure how much but close to HK price.

[Cassius]

About one year ago I was getting ready to start airsoft. Suddenly all went to hell and I lost the people who were supposed to help me start out. Since back then I was a student, I did not have much funds available to me so I started doing pretty much what most new people do: look for a loophole or some sort of weakness in the system where I could play airsoft at all cost which by then meant by the cheapest possible way.

When one of those moment comes into my life, I sit and wait a week. If after a week nothing has changed then I proceed. So a year back, I sat and waited a week and realized that buying a cheap aeg was something more or less like a second choice. I prioritized getting a TM aeg but knew it impossible so I was opting for a cheap chinese aeg. That is when I realized that I might as well wait and get my first choice.

I've waited a year and a year later here I am, much more aware of the airsoft community as well as its people and its equipment.

I am days away from receiving my first AEG, I already own a GBB, have the equipment with me or coming in the mail and in two weeks I am receiving my other AEG. I am getting exactly what I've wanted a year ago and am not wasting my money on cheap alternatives.

I am not saying CYMA is crap since I've never used one. I am simply stating that if I were you, I would sit tight and wait because the sport will not go away but eventually the money will flow in and that's right about when you can buy your first choice and not risk regretting the cheap alternative.

It took me some time but I came to realize that airsoft cannot be enjoyed if you don't intend to invest in it. No matter what you might think, the airsoft sport is not a cheap sport. It has been proven countless many times, it will cost you from 800$ to 1200$cdn to start playing airsoft if you have nothing.

Airsoft is all about realism and realism is mostly achieved throughout your equipment. In reality, an AK doesn't fail. Will the CYMA fail? Most possibly. Would I invest 175$ into it? Definately not. Would I invest 150$ in it? Probably but I wouldn't field it in fear of breaking it (same goes to that Systema PTW; that's a show gun not a field gun). If you are willing to play airsoft as it is meant to be then I suggest you wait a little while up until you can buy something of a better quality.

If you only want that CYMA for garage plinking and to hang it on to your wall then go ahead. A 175$ AK-47 replica on a wall is a nice bargain plus you have the bonus of using it sporadically in your garage and once you really want to get into the sport, let it hang on the wall as a nice decoration and buy yourself a TM.

As to the CYMA brand in itself; sure it will eventually get better. They are copying designs that work with cheaper stuff. Eventually they will find a good compromise and come out with a nice AEG of that I am certain. I would not stay away from a CYMA, I would buy it if I had a TM AEG already; with a reliable AEG and enough money, if the CYMA breaks down it won't matter much for that small amount of money won't make any wave and I can still play with my TM. But for my first airsoft gun? No. I would not go for that.

Once you're age verified, as many people above me mentionned, you can get a nice used AEG for 400$ and it sometimes even come with a couple more mags as well as the battery for that very price. That CYMA is 175$ so lets say 200$. You wait 3 months and earn carefully your money and there's 400$ right there.

Good luck

[Moz]

I remember trying a TM Ak47 at the TTAC3 airsoft convention in the fall and this thing is a huge metal beast in comparison. It shoots fantastic, the gears sound like they are running smoothly (I guess I got a greased one) all the parts are rock solid, The whole forward barrel and gas assembly is solid metal, the upper and bolt cover are metal and the synthetic stock is rock solid. The barrel is brass. Though the hop-up seems overly effective. I haven't really tried it on a range so I don't know how accurate it is.

I wouldn't normally have risked spending money of something so so, but all the research I've done from reviews is that it is worth the risk

Picture:



Just kidding. Real picture coming soon.

[The Saint]

Dude, finger off the trigger. Basic firearms safety, you know?

[Moz]

The magazine is very flimsy though. I wouldn't trust the battery either.

I'll open it up and inspect the wiring this weekend as well maybe the gearbox.

I see it this way, it's either a great deal on a mid range gun, or is a fixer upper. I like tinkering anyway.

(edit: PS, thats not me)

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Moz

The magazine is very flimsy though. I wouldn't trust the battery either.

I'll open it up and inspect the wiring this weekend as well maybe the gearbox.

I see it this way, it's either a great deal on a mid range gun, or is a fixer upper. I like tinkering anyway.

(edit: PS, thats not me)

Cool, I'd be interesting in seeing what the internals are like.

[Moz]

I promised the person pictured that we could get to play with it stock first (she doesn't trust me)

PS: I really need to get age verified.

edit: It also appears that my cat loves chewing on the flash suppressor. which is strange because it is metal. He might just be jealous that the new rifle is getting all his attention.

[Renegade)]

Originally Posted by Moz

PS: I really need to get age verified.

Then you scroll down the forums, find a rep in your area, buy them a coffee at Tim Hortons, and you get verrified! Your in the GTA, there are a whole whack of reps here, go visit a game even.