Fuse Removal

[joker060]

This has probably been asked before but I couldn't find it.

What are the pros/cons of fuse removal?? I was just wondering if I should remove the fuse on my lightly upgraded G36C. Thanks.

[medhatboy]

I take the fuse out of all of my guns, its a pain in the ass to change a blown fuse in the middle of a firefight. The only con I've heard is a power spike can damage your motor, thats why the fuse is there to prevent the spike getting to the motor, but I'm not worried, never had it happen yet.

[Razcal]

I keep the fuse in, and always carry xtra with me. I would rather change a fuse in the field than change a motor. Cheaper too.
I say this cause i have blown 4 in the last 2 months. (might have somthing to do with rewiring the gun myself though)lol

My 2 cents

[Jughead]

never used a fuse and never will, I have never had any problems.

[Jimski]

same for me.
I'd rather shock this damn motor to death than having to change a freaking fuse during a engagement.

If you really fear power spikes mount a mosfet switch instead (ask Kos-Mos )

[CDN_Stalker]

I get rid of fuses too, largely because of all the gunwork I've done over the past few years (includes fragged mechboxes from gears shredding), very few of them of them have had the fuse blow. Some had been upgraded previously, including a 20A fuse, and had a gear go (manufacturers defect in most cases I've seen), mechbox siezed up and wouldn't turn over, the fuse stayed intact.

BTW, fuses only protect the wiring, nothing else. If a surge large enough to damage anything in the gun, it'd be the wiring that would disintegrate, not the parts. But in that case you'd have to have the trigger pulled for a while to make it happen. Even in extreme normal cases, the wiring would get hot to the touch, but still it'd take effort to damage the wire further than that.

[deep in the bush]

I had mine rewired to have fuse in buttstock. it makes it easy to swap it out in field.

works like a charm.

go deep

[mcguyver]

The fuse is there to protect the motor primarily, not the wiring. The type of fuse determines how and when it will blow and under what circumstances. The current inrush to the motor can be very high (upwards of 60 amps in some cases), especially if you use an upgraded spring and you start the cycle with the spring heavily compressed. Guys who "blow fuses" either are using the wrong type, size, or rating of fuse, or they indeed do have a problem that needs to be adressed. I would venture to say that 99% of the people who use airsoft guns don't even know how to properly use a DMM and measure things like inrush current, parasitic draw, leakage current and voltage. If you do not understand any of these very basic concepts, then fuse removal is a ridiculous proposition.

Fuse removal means that any compromise to the flow of current, either through damaged wiring, or to the motor itself, will mean a good deal of repair, instead of a $0.25 fuse.

Just FYI, in electrical and electronics work, the CSA requires fuses for many different reasons and applications. We have to use them (or equivalent over-current protective means) for literally thousands of different applications. If these guns were manufactured in Canada or legal enough to require CSA approval, you would have a fuse present in the gun system very close to the battery.

Guys who remove fuses really have no idea why they are there in the first place and why NOT to remove them. If you did, you would not remove them.

[Renegade)]

For a set up like what I have where I rear wired my gun for a larger battery in a battery bag on my collapse stock, with the wires insulated on the outside of the gun, there really is no place for a fuse now right? and I havnt seen anyone else use one with this set up, is it such a bad deal?

[CDN_Stalker]

We use circuit breakers and fuses in aircraft wiring to protect the wiring itself, not the components.

Fuses in AEGs.............. haven't seen very many of them go at all compared to every type of internal fuck up imaginable in mechboxes. #18AWG wire (which is run through the mechbox.......... another reason to ignore claims of low resistance wire, you can't fit higher gauge wire in the mechbox) will handle up to about 16 amps unless confined (in a wire bundle, mechbox would be considered open air), and in aviation practices the fusing is done to protect the wire, therefore what I posted before. If a stock AEG comes with a 15A fuse, and the mechbox wiring it rated around 16A................

Still, I can partially agree that the fuse is to protect the motor, except I've never found a dead motor in any of the 3 dozen guns I've worked on in the past few years (about 1/4 to 1/3 have had seized mechboxes and such). Most of the motor damage was the owner not properly setting the motor height and the pinion gear getting chewed up.

Not an arguement starter by any means, more of an information sharing session.