Tokyo Marui P226 Whoas

kdogg · July 12th, 2007, 15:33

I've actually heard others say that spring causes problems. Who knows, I'll try with and without it.

Redgas... Nope. We have some here in the store but I never really thought I noticed that much of a difference in FPS with it.

LUTNIT · July 12th, 2007, 16:34

Strange...

I know of a TM P226 has only a couple stock parts in it, it shoots 398fps or something.

My TM P226 has 150% hammer spring, creation metal slide and barrel, 150% recoil spring and thats it. It chronies 380fps with 0.20's (propane) and so long as its at least 20-25'C out I can get through an entire mag with enough gas leftover to fire maybe one or two shots before a huge power drop. My slide doesn't lock back, even with a full mag of gas and 1 BB and its my guess that my recoil spring is just too strong, going to cut a couple loops off of it.

kdogg · July 13th, 2007, 01:55

Want a good laugh?

I remembered I got a free sample AI Propane Adapter while I was at Operation Safari Strike III a few weeks ago. I found it in my basement in my gear bag, got my torch and pulled the can of propane off and gave it a try.

Using propane and the supplied oil that came with the AI:PA, my P226 can make it threw a full magazine plus a few extra trigger pulls but she don't lock back? Maybe I'll cut a couple coils or buy a R.C.C. 130%?

Anyway its out ranging my Systema PTW when its got the M90/350 FPS cylinder in it now. I have a tree line in my back yard I can shoot at, when the BB's from my PTW reach the tree line they are just starting to fall. With the P226 they are straight all the way into the woods.

Thats sad

I'm going to chrono it tomorrow when I get into the shop.

kdogg · July 29th, 2007, 07:48

Well, the gun works flawlessly. Took bad the damn slide has a factory flaw in it.

The more and more its shot, the more I see crack forming right in the middle of the top of the damn slide. I guess thats Guarder quality for you.

What other options for a better slide to I have? I want something light weight like the current slide.

The Saint · July 29th, 2007, 11:52

Creation makes aluminum slides.

Renegade) · July 29th, 2007, 12:42

I just installed a Creation full kit on my 226, installation was VERY painless, the overall finish is absolutly amazing, weight? realistic, but not heavy at all. For the money Id say it was well worth it over that Guarder kit there with the breathing hole...

The Saint · July 29th, 2007, 12:44

More like a breathing slit, kinda like a fish.

Anyways, Creation sells just the slide and the outer barrel, in case you want to keep your Guarder lower. No idea how they'd fit together, though.

kdogg · July 29th, 2007, 13:59

Anyone know anywhere that actually has them in stock though? I tried all of out normal distributors and then ones I normally don't use. I sure can't find one.

Renegade) · July 29th, 2007, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg

Anyone know anywhere that actually has them in stock though? I tried all of out normal distributors and then ones I normally don't use. I sure can't find one.

ur in the US man? order straight frm WGC.

kdogg · July 30th, 2007, 04:12

WGC has been out for ages.

Looks like the only metal kits they have are the Guarders. I emailed Guarder, introduced myself and did some name dropping. Hopefully they will do something for me. They claim to have SUCH good service for defective stuff.

kdogg · July 30th, 2007, 13:19

Just received an email from Sabrina over at Intruder Shop (Guarder) and they are going to replace the slide free of charge if I return the defective one.

Jugglez · July 30th, 2007, 13:35

I have heard Creation is discontinuing their P226 kits, to focus on new releases. Of course this may change if enough people request it from asian retailers like UN, WGC, and RW.

kdogg · July 30th, 2007, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jugglez

I have heard Creation is discontinuing their P226 kits, to focus on new releases. Of course this may change if enough people request it from asian retailers like UN, WGC, and RW.

That sucks. I would have liked to have gotten my hands on one of there "steel" slides.

m15a4master · July 31st, 2007, 22:17

Kdogg you traitor!!!! USE MIA OR SEMIA!!!!

Rainer · August 1st, 2007, 00:15

If you want a damn good metal kit try one like this

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=17817

but of course this one needs a hellova lot of machining to make it work. 1 week of meticulus mesurment, filing, cursing. But damn worth it, makes my 226 feel even sexy-er

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July 12th, 2007, 15:33	#16
kdogg Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA	I've actually heard others say that spring causes problems. Who knows, I'll try with and without it. Redgas... Nope. We have some here in the store but I never really thought I noticed that much of a difference in FPS with it. __________________ www.EmpireAirsoft.com - Retail sales, upgrades and repair service. Certified Systema PTW Repair Tech! Systema PTW M4-A1 MAX 2008 Systema PTW M4/CQBR 2010, Full CNC (EA Custom Edition) ARES Mk18 MOD 1 (EA Custom Edition) WE KAC PDW - 8-incher w/ Open Bolt

July 13th, 2007, 01:55	#18
kdogg Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA	Want a good laugh? I remembered I got a free sample AI Propane Adapter while I was at Operation Safari Strike III a few weeks ago. I found it in my basement in my gear bag, got my torch and pulled the can of propane off and gave it a try. Using propane and the supplied oil that came with the AI:PA, my P226 can make it threw a full magazine plus a few extra trigger pulls but she don't lock back? Maybe I'll cut a couple coils or buy a R.C.C. 130%? Anyway its out ranging my Systema PTW when its got the M90/350 FPS cylinder in it now. I have a tree line in my back yard I can shoot at, when the BB's from my PTW reach the tree line they are just starting to fall. With the P226 they are straight all the way into the woods. Thats sad I'm going to chrono it tomorrow when I get into the shop. __________________ www.EmpireAirsoft.com - Retail sales, upgrades and repair service. Certified Systema PTW Repair Tech! Systema PTW M4-A1 MAX 2008 Systema PTW M4/CQBR 2010, Full CNC (EA Custom Edition) ARES Mk18 MOD 1 (EA Custom Edition) WE KAC PDW - 8-incher w/ Open Bolt

July 29th, 2007, 07:48	#19
kdogg Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA	Well, the gun works flawlessly. Took bad the damn slide has a factory flaw in it. The more and more its shot, the more I see crack forming right in the middle of the top of the damn slide. I guess thats Guarder quality for you. What other options for a better slide to I have? I want something light weight like the current slide. __________________ www.EmpireAirsoft.com - Retail sales, upgrades and repair service. Certified Systema PTW Repair Tech! Systema PTW M4-A1 MAX 2008 Systema PTW M4/CQBR 2010, Full CNC (EA Custom Edition) ARES Mk18 MOD 1 (EA Custom Edition) WE KAC PDW - 8-incher w/ Open Bolt

July 12th, 2007, 16:34	#17
LUTNIT Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ottawa	Strange... I know of a TM P226 has only a couple stock parts in it, it shoots 398fps or something. My TM P226 has 150% hammer spring, creation metal slide and barrel, 150% recoil spring and thats it. It chronies 380fps with 0.20's (propane) and so long as its at least 20-25'C out I can get through an entire mag with enough gas leftover to fire maybe one or two shots before a huge power drop. My slide doesn't lock back, even with a full mag of gas and 1 BB and its my guess that my recoil spring is just too strong, going to cut a couple loops off of it.

July 29th, 2007, 11:52	#20
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	Creation makes aluminum slides. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

July 29th, 2007, 12:42	#21
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	I just installed a Creation full kit on my 226, installation was VERY painless, the overall finish is absolutly amazing, weight? realistic, but not heavy at all. For the money Id say it was well worth it over that Guarder kit there with the breathing hole... __________________ W1-5

July 29th, 2007, 12:44	#22
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	More like a breathing slit, kinda like a fish. Anyways, Creation sells just the slide and the outer barrel, in case you want to keep your Guarder lower. No idea how they'd fit together, though. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

July 29th, 2007, 13:59	#23
kdogg Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA	Anyone know anywhere that actually has them in stock though? I tried all of out normal distributors and then ones I normally don't use. I sure can't find one. __________________ www.EmpireAirsoft.com - Retail sales, upgrades and repair service. Certified Systema PTW Repair Tech! Systema PTW M4-A1 MAX 2008 Systema PTW M4/CQBR 2010, Full CNC (EA Custom Edition) ARES Mk18 MOD 1 (EA Custom Edition) WE KAC PDW - 8-incher w/ Open Bolt

July 30th, 2007, 04:12	#25
kdogg Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA	WGC has been out for ages. Looks like the only metal kits they have are the Guarders. I emailed Guarder, introduced myself and did some name dropping. Hopefully they will do something for me. They claim to have SUCH good service for defective stuff. __________________ www.EmpireAirsoft.com - Retail sales, upgrades and repair service. Certified Systema PTW Repair Tech! Systema PTW M4-A1 MAX 2008 Systema PTW M4/CQBR 2010, Full CNC (EA Custom Edition) ARES Mk18 MOD 1 (EA Custom Edition) WE KAC PDW - 8-incher w/ Open Bolt Last edited by kdogg; July 30th, 2007 at 04:15..

July 30th, 2007, 13:19	#26
kdogg Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan USA	Just received an email from Sabrina over at Intruder Shop (Guarder) and they are going to replace the slide free of charge if I return the defective one. __________________ www.EmpireAirsoft.com - Retail sales, upgrades and repair service. Certified Systema PTW Repair Tech! Systema PTW M4-A1 MAX 2008 Systema PTW M4/CQBR 2010, Full CNC (EA Custom Edition) ARES Mk18 MOD 1 (EA Custom Edition) WE KAC PDW - 8-incher w/ Open Bolt

July 30th, 2007, 13:35	#27
Jugglez Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Swimming in a pool of Xpresspost receipts.... Toronto - 400/401	I have heard Creation is discontinuing their P226 kits, to focus on new releases. Of course this may change if enough people request it from asian retailers like UN, WGC, and RW. __________________

July 31st, 2007, 22:17	#29
m15a4master Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mt. clemens Michigan	Kdogg you traitor!!!! USE MIA OR SEMIA!!!!

August 1st, 2007, 00:15	#30
Rainer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winnipeg	If you want a damn good metal kit try one like this http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=17817 but of course this one needs a hellova lot of machining to make it work. 1 week of meticulus mesurment, filing, cursing. But damn worth it, makes my 226 feel even sexy-er __________________

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