Battery dead?

[Gunk]

Not dead as in 'needs to be charged' but dead dead...

It's a nunchuck battery, 8.4 1500 Mah I believe (it's at home, I'm not, and I don't have pictures) it came with my JG 416, slides into the (I think it's called) crane stock. (yeah, so I suck at part names)

There are two rows of three cells, and a single cell hanging loose, on the single cell one of the wires (it's the red wire) connecting to the battery broke off in the middle of the shrink wraped area. I tried electrical taping it back together, and got the occasional shot off, but nothing consistent. There's a little piece of metal visable coming off the battery, as well as the wire itself, I put them together, taped them together, and got my inconsistent shots. I tried plugging it into my charger, and the charger did not react at all, as though it didn't realise there was a battery connected.

Is it possible to fix this? Maybe I just didn't sit the two pieces together well enough and there wasn't sufficient contact for energy to pass, or is the battery dead, as in dead dead.

(sorry if repost, didn't see this question, but I'm in a rush so I didn't look a whole lot)

Thanks in advance.

.J

[macmachine]

Must be a bad connection where you taped it... have you tried soldering the connection? Be carefull to not overheat the cell while doing it. Had the same problem with a battery that wouldn't react to the charger when plugged in. One of the wire was almost torn off, I just cutted it a little and soldered it back and it worked fine.

[Kos-Mos]

oh boy....


Just repair it properly.

Taping something is not repairing.
You simply have to solder it back in place.

[Fly 9]

Not thread-jacking, I've got a similar problem.
I've run into a battery that is not recognised by my charger. 8.4v 1500(?) mA mini.
When I charge my minis it recognises, when i charge my buddy's mini the charger doesn't even turn on.
Reckon its a wiring thing too? This battery has never been used because we've never been able to charge it.
It's too late for refunds...

[Jimski]

sometimes even if there is some contact, it's not enough to get some real current.
AEGs need power to crank the spring, that's why you need a really good connexion, properly soldered.
at the trigger point or in the plug, even if it's not soldered, there is enough contact surface to ensure enough intensity goes through.

that's why you can sometimes have a battery that responds properly to a voltmeter test, bust still can't give enough intensity to crank a spring.

fly: check if a contact bar between cells is broken, or replace wiring.

[Gunk]

Thanks guys.

Don't have a soldering iron, but I might be able to scrounge one up somewhere (at least 1 person in a town of 10 000 ought to have one, no?)

Oh, and I know taping isn't really repairing, but anyone who's watched even 5 minutes of Red Green will debate that to the death... so...

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Fly 9

Reckon its a wiring thing too? This battery has never been used because we've never been able to charge it.
It's too late for refunds...

If no one's ever been able to charge it, I would bet it's more than likely a connection issue somewhere in the battery pack. It could be a bad cell, but the weakest point of any battery is usually the wiring, so I would check that first.

Originally Posted by Gunk

Thanks guys.

Don't have a soldering iron, but I might be able to scrounge one up somewhere (at least 1 person in a town of 10 000 ought to have one, no?)

Or you could go to The Source and buy one for $10 then you'd always have one. While you're at it, pick up some solder and some flux too.

[Amos]

I've been told that a majority of the time the batteries that come with Chinese clone guns will not be strong enough or good enough to power the gun in the long-run.

Hell I remember trying my Kraken battery on one of my guns... That was a laugh.

[Crunchmeister]

I have the JG HK416 and the stock battery. The battery has seen thousands of rounds and it still works great. As long as it's properly treated - discharged and fully reccharged every time, it will last. Granted, its lifespan will be shorter than a quality battery, but it's still good.

That being said, those particular JG crane stock batteries are actually quite notorious for having wiring issues. I've had to solder mine a couple of times already.

[Gunk]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

If no one's ever been able to charge it, I would bet it's more than likely a connection issue somewhere in the battery pack. It could be a bad cell, but the weakest point of any battery is usually the wiring, so I would check that first.



Or you could go to The Source and buy one for $10 then you'd always have one. While you're at it, pick up some solder and some flux too.

It's worked before. I've charged, and gamed it before.

I could, and would... but I'd rather a refresher course before I go to town myself and blow up my apartment somehow (Hey, it's me... it could happen) the last time I remember soldering something... I was... maybe 8... my stepdad was showing me how or he was fixing something and I happened to be there. Needless to say I'd rather someone show me how (in person, I learn better and quicker that way) before I try myself.

Also... this is Elmira dude. Our Radio Shack (fine... "The Source"...) is a 20 foot by 20 foot outlet thingy inside a Home Hardware... but I'll check the Home Hardware still

And the battery that came with the 416 (as Crunch said) is pretty good. It's just this wiring thing that needs fixing. It's always held a charge (except that one time, but I forgot to charge it the night before, so my fault) and never crapped out before.

[gvanzeggelaar]

Next game I am at I will solder it for you for a second. I usually bring my airsoft toolbox with me anyway. I am not going to the October 26 game though.