Inner Barrel/Silencer Question

Sawstink · March 21st, 2010, 14:09

I have a JG M4A1 from Velocity Arms, and I was wondering if this: http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=82 would fit on the gun, and if the battery would be able to still be housed in the fore-grips. Also, because it comes with a silencer, would it be able to hide this: http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=363 ?

Sbradshaw · March 21st, 2010, 14:13

battery will not fit inside the ris, you would have to get a peq

Sawstink · March 21st, 2010, 14:45

Thanks for the info. PEQ boxes look weird to me, and I'm not really in the mood of buying a new stock. Has anybody ever used on of these http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=321 and/or have pics to post?
Also how would the wiring work with one of these?

coach · March 21st, 2010, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sawstink

Thanks for the info. PEQ boxes look weird to me, and I'm not really in the mood of buying a new stock. Has anybody ever used on of these http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=321 and/or have pics to post?
Also how would the wiring work with one of these?

same as a PEQ box. wires will hang out the top with a connector and your mechbox wires will hang out from the ris/ras hand grip with a connector on the end. you could probably tuck them back in to hide them.

ThunderCactus · March 21st, 2010, 15:29

You don't like the AN/PEQ-15?
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms...ase-black.html
Alternatively you could wire your gun to the rear and buy a battery stock like a G&P crane stock.

Sawstink · March 21st, 2010, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

You don't like the AN/PEQ-15?
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms...ase-black.html
Alternatively you could wire your gun to the rear and buy a battery stock like a G&P crane stock.

As I said before, PEQ boxes look funny to me, and rewiring and buying a new stock seems like a bad option as I already need a foregrip, so this could kill two birds with one stone

Ghostnote · March 21st, 2010, 20:11

I have this d boys ris set from velocity arms. the barrel that it comes with is very short (4 inches) unless you are using a longer barrel like the one that came with the gun it wont be able to house a longer inner barrel. If your battery is an 8.4v mini or smaller get the grip, if its anything bigger then it wont fit. For my gun, i ended up rewiring to the back.

EDIT: http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=329 this seems to be easier, although it says it wont fit a battery but it is cheaper.

scurvythepirate · March 21st, 2010, 20:38

The foregrip looks pretty small, Ive thought about using this method before, only to get dumped in my bad idea bin of thoughts. I doubt it can hold a 8.4v Mini, which is still a pretty lacking battery.

Hazah! http://www.ebairsoft.com/rail-batter...ry-p-2104.html

Low quality lipo, just take care of it, shall be okay.

ThunderCactus · March 21st, 2010, 23:12

SHADY
Says it's a 1100mah 15C, but the pic shows a 1200mah 12C.
You'll have to buy a fuse and a PCB to use a LiPo that small. It can only handle 14A continuous so buy a 10A fuse. And with that low amperage, you'll need a PCB to make sure you don't overdischarge the cells, because if you overdischarge it, it'll go up in flames next time you charge it.

Sawstink · March 21st, 2010, 23:28

WOW! Thanks for the links guys, appreciate it

And the crappy battery that came with the gun is an 8.4 V mini, but I plan to go to the local RC shop and pick up a suitable charger and battery.

As far as the fore-grips go, do they fit just like the regular handguards, as in split into two parts?

"Replace your standard M4 handugards with these. Simply slide them into the delta ring, the same as normal. Caution: Batteries will not fit with these. A battery box or rear wiring to the stock is required." That quote off Velocity Arms seemed strangely worded to me.

Last question for now: If I was to buy a stock to house the battery, would i need to rewire it, or could i just get long enough wires to loop back around the gearbox?

Ghostnote · March 21st, 2010, 23:42

They fit into the front just like the plastic foregrip that came with the gun.

There is no space to loop around inside the gun and outside just won't look right. new switch assembly is not very expensive, and if you can solder then wires/connectors are very cheap.

Sawstink · March 22nd, 2010, 17:35

My guns wiring is messed up as it is, and frankly I am too scared to open up the gearbox to diagnose it. I know it's a wiring issue, as I took a multimeter to it, and I know that the wirign is broken somewhere between the trigger and the motor (it's not the fuse). I could probably get someone to fix it for me and also rewire it to the back while they're at it

This stock has a battery compartment, but I'm not sure how it works. Do the wires run up the buffer tube into the stock?
http://www.ebairsoft.com/collapsible...ack-p-907.html

coach · March 23rd, 2010, 10:54

I have that stock and can tell you it is very difficult to store a standard battery in it. Lipo yes but mini's are tough. the storage compartment is just that. storage for 2 x cr123 batteries.

I had a custom 9.6v mini battery made up and it fits but it's not easy to collapse or extend without some tinkering due to the placement of the wires. the stock had to be modified as well to have the wires routed to the right places. 2 batteries in the storage slot, and 2 rows of 3 in the buffer tube.

since then, I put that stock onto my m500 shotty and went back to a full stock on the AR.

Sawstink · March 23rd, 2010, 16:09

I will probably settle for whatever comes my way the soonest, I was thinking of dropping by Huang's shop and picking some stuff up anyways (rail system, batteries/charger, EoTech clone and maybe some mags)

Sportco · March 23rd, 2010, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sawstink

I will probably settle for whatever comes my way the soonest, I was thinking of dropping by Huang's shop and picking some stuff up anyways (rail system, batteries/charger, EoTech clone and maybe some mags)

Bring 8 loose AA baterries at the store and try to fit them... I hated the battery box on my cxp so I modified a 2000 mha 8aa cell pack of intellect and it fits perfectly... (( weird 3 bat L + 3bat L + 1 + 1))

Just loose the original fuse holder and go with automotive fuse using lateral contacts... or some loose the fuse completely (not me)

While your at it... install a one prong connector thats flush with the receiver top and plug your charger in there without removing the battery pack!

Need more room got to 7 cell 8.4v or 6 cell 7.2v (to slow for my taste) and polish the piston rail gliders inside the receiver to minimize resistance.

Cheers,

Pete

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March 21st, 2010, 14:09	#1
Sawstink Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto	Inner Barrel/Silencer Question I have a JG M4A1 from Velocity Arms, and I was wondering if this: http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=82 would fit on the gun, and if the battery would be able to still be housed in the fore-grips. Also, because it comes with a silencer, would it be able to hide this: http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=363 ?

March 21st, 2010, 14:45	#3
Sawstink Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto	Thanks for the info. PEQ boxes look weird to me, and I'm not really in the mood of buying a new stock. Has anybody ever used on of these http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=321 and/or have pics to post? Also how would the wiring work with one of these? Last edited by Sawstink; March 21st, 2010 at 14:48..

March 21st, 2010, 20:11	#7
Ghostnote Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Markham	I have this d boys ris set from velocity arms. the barrel that it comes with is very short (4 inches) unless you are using a longer barrel like the one that came with the gun it wont be able to house a longer inner barrel. If your battery is an 8.4v mini or smaller get the grip, if its anything bigger then it wont fit. For my gun, i ended up rewiring to the back. EDIT: http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=329 this seems to be easier, although it says it wont fit a battery but it is cheaper. Last edited by Ghostnote; March 21st, 2010 at 20:13.. Reason: forgot info

March 21st, 2010, 14:13	#2
Sbradshaw Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fort st John, BC	battery will not fit inside the ris, you would have to get a peq

March 21st, 2010, 15:29	#5
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	You don't like the AN/PEQ-15? http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms...ase-black.html Alternatively you could wire your gun to the rear and buy a battery stock like a G&P crane stock.

March 21st, 2010, 20:38	#8
scurvythepirate Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kelowna,BC	The foregrip looks pretty small, Ive thought about using this method before, only to get dumped in my bad idea bin of thoughts. I doubt it can hold a 8.4v Mini, which is still a pretty lacking battery. Hazah! http://www.ebairsoft.com/rail-batter...ry-p-2104.html Low quality lipo, just take care of it, shall be okay. __________________

March 21st, 2010, 23:12	#9
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	SHADY Says it's a 1100mah 15C, but the pic shows a 1200mah 12C. You'll have to buy a fuse and a PCB to use a LiPo that small. It can only handle 14A continuous so buy a 10A fuse. And with that low amperage, you'll need a PCB to make sure you don't overdischarge the cells, because if you overdischarge it, it'll go up in flames next time you charge it.

March 21st, 2010, 23:28	#10
Sawstink Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto	WOW! Thanks for the links guys, appreciate it And the crappy battery that came with the gun is an 8.4 V mini, but I plan to go to the local RC shop and pick up a suitable charger and battery. As far as the fore-grips go, do they fit just like the regular handguards, as in split into two parts? "Replace your standard M4 handugards with these. Simply slide them into the delta ring, the same as normal. Caution: Batteries will not fit with these. A battery box or rear wiring to the stock is required." That quote off Velocity Arms seemed strangely worded to me. Last question for now: If I was to buy a stock to house the battery, would i need to rewire it, or could i just get long enough wires to loop back around the gearbox? Last edited by Sawstink; March 21st, 2010 at 23:36..

March 21st, 2010, 23:42	#11
Ghostnote Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Markham	They fit into the front just like the plastic foregrip that came with the gun. There is no space to loop around inside the gun and outside just won't look right. new switch assembly is not very expensive, and if you can solder then wires/connectors are very cheap.

March 22nd, 2010, 17:35	#12
Sawstink Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto	My guns wiring is messed up as it is, and frankly I am too scared to open up the gearbox to diagnose it. I know it's a wiring issue, as I took a multimeter to it, and I know that the wirign is broken somewhere between the trigger and the motor (it's not the fuse). I could probably get someone to fix it for me and also rewire it to the back while they're at it This stock has a battery compartment, but I'm not sure how it works. Do the wires run up the buffer tube into the stock? http://www.ebairsoft.com/collapsible...ack-p-907.html Last edited by Sawstink; March 22nd, 2010 at 17:58..

March 23rd, 2010, 10:54	#13
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	I have that stock and can tell you it is very difficult to store a standard battery in it. Lipo yes but mini's are tough. the storage compartment is just that. storage for 2 x cr123 batteries. I had a custom 9.6v mini battery made up and it fits but it's not easy to collapse or extend without some tinkering due to the placement of the wires. the stock had to be modified as well to have the wires routed to the right places. 2 batteries in the storage slot, and 2 rows of 3 in the buffer tube. since then, I put that stock onto my m500 shotty and went back to a full stock on the AR.

March 23rd, 2010, 16:09	#14
Sawstink Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto	I will probably settle for whatever comes my way the soonest, I was thinking of dropping by Huang's shop and picking some stuff up anyways (rail system, batteries/charger, EoTech clone and maybe some mags)

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