I had a really crappy thread title so a mod changed it. Can I get some advice on G&G, VA and SRC armalite based AEGs please? Purple monkey dish washer

[bighitbomber1]

First off I would like to say hi and compliment everyone for such a great site full of(too much!)information. I am fairly new to airsoft and looking to buy a new gun. I already own a krakken ak-47 and am interested in aquiring an M4 or an M16 variation. I have been poking around this site for quite sometime now doing research and have come up with a few options. I would sure appreciate some insight and wisdom from you guys. Here's what I have it narrowed it down to:

G&G M4 CQB-R Full Metal, SRC M4A1 Gen.3, G&G M16A3 advanced or velocity arms V4A1 carbine.

I'm not looking for the best of the best, but at the same time nothing cheap and something upgradeable that will last. Most of our games will be outside in the forest and I am also 6'3" tall so I was thinking a longer rifle would be better. Any help would be appreciated!

[DanoftheDead]

If you get Age verified on this site and check out the classifieds you'll find alot better options than the ones you listed for around the same price or cheaper. M4's are hugely popular and there are always M4's for sale on the classifieds here.

[R.I.T.Z]

Most everyone on this forum will tell you to get “Age verified” and buy from the classifieds.
You cannot import any guns from websites outside of Canada.
Airsoft is a 18+ sport
Sniping is not for newbies
If you are underage please do not try to circumvent the system in place, its there for a reason.
Nobody will help you get a gun if you are not age verified or underage
Do not play in your backyard/forest or anything of the like. Only play on official fields.
Please read the FAQ’s

LINKS!
FAQ's Please read

How To get verified

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO USE OF ALL!

Replica firearms (prohibited devices)
Replica firearms:
• are designed or intended to exactly resemble a firearm with near precision;
• include most airsoft guns; and
• are not reproductions of antique firearms.
Replica firearms are classified as prohibited devices. Individuals cannot import them into Canada.

http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca


Also please name your thread correctly, with something related to your question

[Hairu]

RITZ is my hero
I dont think I ever got his famous welcome which makes me somewhat sad
but yeah you should get age verified and check out the classifieds they have some nice guns (I just bought my first gun on monday from the classifieds and will have it next week )
also if I were getting an m4 I would look at ICS they have the interesting split gearbox and look like some good quality stuff

[bighitbomber1]

DanoftheDead,

Thank you for the information.I'll bet there are some nice guns on here, but I am a firm believer in supporting local buisnesses. I was just trying to narrow my search.

R.I.T.Z,

thanks. sure hard to get good information.

[DanoftheDead]

Originally Posted by bighitbomber1

DanoftheDead,

Thank you for the information.I'll bet there are some nice guns on here, but I am a firm believer in supporting local buisnesses. I was just trying to narrow my search.

R.I.T.Z,

thanks. sure hard to get good information.

there is also a retailer section again once AV'd you'll be able to access most all of the local retailers you are talking about wanting to deal with.

[Shooting Addict]

Originally Posted by Hairu

RITZ is my hero
I dont think I ever got his famous welcome which makes me somewhat sad

Neither did i

[TokyoSeven]

Strike off the G&Gs and keep it between the SRC and the VA. G&G guns seem to have compression issues with its internal compression related components. Dont get me wrong, G&Gs still function alright but I thought it would be fair that you were informed.

Come to think of it does anyone know what the base gun of a VA brand AEG is?

There are better options out there than the brands you listed but if thats whats in your budget that is fine. There are also other options that have been previously mentioned by other members already and I hope you take those into consideration as well.

Originally Posted by Hairu

RITZ is my hero
I dont think I ever got his famous welcome which makes me somewhat sad

Originally Posted by Shooting Addict

Neither did i

Dont feel bad. I'll post my original greeting for you guys. I dont use it anymore because no one actually ever read it.

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Welcome newcomer. Before or after you introduce yourself take a moment and just read through what Ive got compiled below here for you. You may find it useful, you may not. If your new to airsoft though I highly recommend you give it a once over. Aside from that welcome to ASC.

If you havent already please take the time to fill in your profile, Where your from, your birthday etc.This forum holds a lot of information. Please keep in mind before starting a new thread, that there maybe an existing one already. Near the upper right hand corner next to the quick links and log out tab is the search tab. With that you can attempt to see if there is a thread on the topic, don’t get discouraged if you don’t find something right away, change up your search words as well, the search system doesn’t just find tittles it looks for word matches in the content as well. If there is an existing thread on the topic and something wasn’t clear, don’t be afraid to necro post, despite what some douche bags say, its perfectly fine.

I’m sure you have a lot of questions, and in time you will find all the answers. There’s a lot to learn and it cant be picked up in a week or two. But I’m time you will learn what you need.

Heres a little reading Id like you to have a look at.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51609
It will shed a little light on airsoft in Canada in general.

Now as for airsoft in Canada, just as a general consensus this website and the majority of its members follow the 18 years of age rule. Meaning that it is recommended that a person be the age of 18 before they acquire their first gun. It is recommended because 18 is the recognized age where a person can be held legally responsible for their actions. Now it may not be illegal in all provinces to own airsoft, but I do believe there is a province out there where there is an actual law stating that one must be 18 to purchase. Which one that is, I cannot remember. Hopefully someone can perk up and jump in on that part. The majority of fields used for airsoft play usually require that a person be 18 years of age as well, although I have heard of fields where there have been players as young as 16, with parental consent.
I would like to take a moment to touch on maturity. I find people of all ages quote maturity, unfortunately stating maturity is irrelevant when it comes to airsoft, for the most part at least. There have been people as old as 40 and up who have acted like they were 12. I have already stated why the age of 18 was chosen. Now from time to time I hear people who are underage say that they have grown up with firearms all their life and they hunt and everything etc. If this applies to you then you should pay attention to this, if not you should read it and take it to heart anyways. So you have hunted for a long time? Been around guns since you were little? Well good you should have a firm grasp of trigger and muzzle control then. Now unfortunately regardless how much experience you have with fire arms you can not use it as a bargaining chip to skirt around what has been set as a rule among this community.
In my personal opinion an airsoft gun is not a fire arm; however that’s my personal opinion. For me, an airsoft gun only looks like a fire arm but that’s where I draw the line in comparisons. They do not function the same, sure relations can be made but they still are not the same. Now although I may not consider an airsoft gun a fire arm, authorities will in most instances. If you get caught doing something stupid with an airsoft gun you will be charged as if you are committing an offence with a real fire arm. If you are under the age of 18, the damage falls onto your legal guardians, so the shit really hits the fan. If you’re 18 and over at least you can be held responsible for being stupid. That’s the jist of it, accept it or don’t.

This website has a process called age verification, where if you are 18 or older you can meet with a volunteer representative of this website who will meet with you in person, there is no way around this, no phone, no webcam, in person only, where they will require to see a legitimate piece of photo identification. After the process is completed, it can take sometime as this is all volunteer work, you will be granted access to this websites buy and sell section, where you can find both new and used guns, for fair and competitive prices. Although its not always the case, it is sort of an open market.

Things to keep in mind when initially getting into airsoft.

-Its usually best to start with an AEG.

-Remember to factor in the costs of gear for your kit, BDU's, footwear, vest or holsters, slings and most of all, eye protection. Money can fix teeth, but I don’t think we can fix a shot out eye yet.

-You don’t always have to have a side arm in the beginning, its something you can pick up along the way.

-In most cases its recommended to play with your gun stock for a while before considering upgrades. Upgrading can be costly and can cause complications in some cases.

-Don’t forget to buy magazines for whatever gun you choose. High caps are ok, but well they rattle. Mid caps and low caps in my personal opinion are best.

This link is a link to a page that has some information in regards to picking your first AEG. I suggest you take sometime and read it.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=253

Gun reviews can be found all over the internet, regardless which search engine you use, a different combination of search words can yield different searches. Let me keep it short and sweet, for the bulk of it, AEGS are simple motors that drive pistons that compress a spring to expel air to propel a BB down a barrel. How you want that set up to look is up to you. There are many brands of companies out there that make airsoft guns, how much you pay maybe relevant to the quality you receive.

Tactics and gear questions, tactics and other movement and communication methods can be learned on the internet or will be picked up overtime as you play. Gear, people build kits that suite their needs, its not just about looking cool. Some people simple use a holster for a side arm and carry a few mags in pockets. Others prefer to carry a full kit. To each his own. Its something you build and develop to your playing style over time.


Finally this website also has a FAQ section that holds some useful info, it may not be entirely up to date, but I suggest you poke around in there as well. You may find something handy.

[Shooting Addict]

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Come to think of it does anyone know what the base gun of a VA brand AEG is?

Pretty sure the VA guns are a JG with a VA see through lower installed

[TokyoSeven]

That makes sense and I think I knew that as well, I think, Im not sure, I may have to write that down so I dont forget next time when another thread like this appears...in a day or two's time.

[DanoftheDead]

Damn, Tokyo that was your welcome? I'd think that'd be enough to scare off underage noobs... apparently not. (not saying that bighitbomber is)

[TokyoSeven]

That was the shorter version the longer version made eyes bleed and also never got read.

[bighitbomber1]

TokyoSeven,

Thank you very much. I did not know that about the G&G rifles. I was kind of leaning towards the SRC just for the fact that it is LiPo ready. And since I'm an r.c. freak, I have alot of LiPo's laying around already!


Hairu,

Thanks, I will definately have a look at ics....

[bighitbomber1]

It would be nice to be called underage! Doesn't happen any more....

[TokyoSeven]

I did a little poking around cause I remember seeing a thread or two about it last week.
Another user had commented how poor quality G&G hopups were, I believe there was also a comment on the quality of their clear lowers and how they were weak and more prone to breaking than others.