Best Airsoft Sniper rifle?

[Camlax]

I'm buying an Airsoft Sniper rifle once I get my Age Verification on this site. Im looking for the best Airsoft sniper I can buy in Canada that..

-Shoots consistently very close to 500fps ( so Its legal and can be played on any field )
-Accurate
-Powerful
-Well built ( not flimsy and cheap and wont break )
-Not to big/long
-Not to heavy

Also willing to throw upgrades in it to make it very reliable. If you could please reply with the name of a sniper and the names of the upgrade parts that would make it an all in all great Airsoft sniper rifle. And also looking for a good scope. Please, no asshole reply's.

Thankyou
Camlax

[WhatTheWho]

Price range?

[Dart]

vsr/l96. Easiest to upgrade. Budget around 300 for rifle and 300+ to make it reliable... Than more to make it accurate.. Sometimes you get lucky and get one that works out of the box but that hardly ever lasts.

[Thenooblord]

500 FPS can not be "used at any field" field limits are 400 FPS, and then some fields allow "certified" snipers to shoot 450 and 500 FPS guns

your criteria is ridiculous anyways, you want a sniper rifle buy dont want it long, want it solid but not heavy

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

your criteria is ridiculous anyways, you want a sniper rifle buy dont want it long, want it solid but not heavy

I have to agree. That's kind of like saying you're looking for a woman, but want her to have a dick. One sort of precludes the other.

Anyway, a sniper rifle is a horrid choice for a first gun and you're not likely to be allowed to play anywhere with a sniper rifle without experience and / or certification.

[L473ncy]

AT $2500+ you could afford to get a TM VSR-10 with pretty much all the bells and whistles (all Laylax and PDI parts, zero trigger etc.).

Then there's the L96 but that will take a lot of money to get into acceptable shape for being a sniper as well.

There's also the CA M24 which also needs upgrades to get it to "sniper rifle quality".

Basically you can get a sniper rifle with a lot of money, dedication, and time. Remember you only have slightly higher accuracy and range and a lower ROF so you have to be sneaky and skilled.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by L473ncy

you have to be sneaky and skilled.

That's part of the issue. So many noobs want a sniper rifle as their first gun and think it's going to make them instant ninjas. Without the 'context', they have no idea what it takes to actually be an airsoft sniper in the first place.

[Strelok]

Also curious. Would this be your first gun dude?

I'd seriously 'NOT' reccomend getting a sniper rifle as your first, not only is it a massive money dump, it's also slow and quite boring if you don't know how to shoot the damn thing. I made the mistake of buying a CA m24 as my first gun and i'll be honest, i struggled a lot learning how they work, how airsoft guns shoot all together, and dumped so much money into it that I could've baught a few good AEG's.

All in all, Stock AEG's and Stock Sniper rifles, no matter the brand (However whether its a clone or not does matter) they will shoot essentially the same. All in distance, accuracy and power. They may lable the box with (OMFG 400+FPS!) but its generally bullshit.

I made a comic years back regarding this kind of thing, it needs serious revision though.




Hope it helps.

Overall, my message is if you're looking to get into airsoft, don't buy a sniper rifle. Spend your money on a quality AEG, get familiarized with it, how it shoots, how it works, and THEN work your way onto a sniper rifle platform. This advice will be repeated by a 'lot' of people on this site, even experienced snipers. There is a reason for this.

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And to answer your original post.

The best sniper rifle you can buy are stock namebrand guns. If a gun is presented to you 'Pre-upgraded', its probably chinese clone trash that shouldnt even be bothered with. The best ones are ones that are made to take upgrades (Any of the TM brand (not clone) VSR-10s. Any Maruzen 'APS' platform (Such as the APS-2 or the L96, NOT the TSD/WELLS clone shit.) And a few Tanaka gas models, if you can even get your hands on them.

Just dont cheap out. You're not saving money in any way.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Strelok

Also curious. Would this be your first gun dude?

By this comment:

Originally Posted by Camlax

I'm buying an Airsoft Sniper rifle once I get my Age Verification on this site.

...I would assume that outside of the possibility of Cdn Tire / Wallyworld clearsoft, this would be his first.

And thanks for posting the comics. I still get a chuckle at them every time they're posted.

[Jimski]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

That's kind of like saying you're looking for a woman, but want her to have a dick.

wow wow why would you chose such an example now

[wildcard]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

I have to agree. That's kind of like saying you're looking for a woman, but want her to have a dick. One sort of precludes the other.

Anyway, a sniper rifle is a horrid choice for a first gun and you're not likely to be allowed to play anywhere with a sniper rifle without experience and / or certification.

Crunchy, I almost spill my coffee here at the departure lounge, why the hell would you pick that as an example you are almost as bad as BARF!

[doc_pathfinders]

it always gets me how everyone thinks sniping is some magic that occurs whenever someone picks up a gun with a telescopic sight, if only they knew what really goes into sniping, they wouldn't even give it the time of day.

*shrugs*

better to be stuck in the action if you ask me.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by wildcard

Crunchy, I almost spill my coffee here at the departure lounge, why the hell would you pick that as an example you are almost as bad as BARF!

Originally Posted by Jimski

wow wow why would you chose such an example now

My work here is done.

[Eldin]

[Colossal Post]
Consider it will cost you +$1k before you get something reliable and consistent.

As thenooblord said, your criteria is ridiculous.

Powerful and consistent are two terms that only mix well if you have ALOT of money on your hands, and why would want a gun shooting close to 500fps? Many fields don't allow 500fps guns, the ones that do usually have a MED to about 150ft+ for these types of guns.

Consistency is the most important factor when sniping.
Consistency and accuracy are the same term here.

Range is nothing; effective range is everything, it's the range where your accuracy is effective (you can hit things, have decent groupings etc.)
Because what's the point of having a huge range, but not being able to hit worth shit?

Your effective range will not increase as your fps increases, as, to put it bluntly, your consistency decreases as your fps increases.

Again, you don't have to put alot of money into a rifle if you want alot of range and fps, but you need a deep pocket if you want consistency, and in the world of airsoft sniping, you need consistency, more than range, more than fps.

In other words...
Higher fps: Pros: ... More range
Cons: Poorer consistency, accuracy and effective range

Lower fps: Pros: More consistency, accuracy and effective range
Cons: Less overall range

I'm trying to keep it relatively simple, and not go into details that much, to keep this on one page.

As for upgrades, you will need a lot of them...
Let's say you were working up from a stock VSR... for example
New trigger ($150-$250)
New piston ($25-$50)
New spring ($25-$50)
Tightbore + outer barrel assembly (+-$400)
New bucking ($10)
New spring guide ($20-$40)

This is a very rough MINIMUM of a start to getting your platform reliable and consistent... Other things you could throw in after...
Much longer aeg tightbore (+600mm) ($125-$200)
Aero Hopup chamber ($40-$80)
Bore-up kit ($200)

Without even adding in the money for mags, a decent scope, accessories etc...

Just to give you a rough idea of what it takes to get a rifle up and running consistently enough for you to actually "snipe" with it.

I'm not even going to go into playing the actual sniper role, as you can find enough info about that on these forums...
-Or maybe I should...

For one, it's alot more physically stressful than most would think...
And being a sniper has a hell of alot more to do with stealth, concealment and discipline than long range shooting.

Plus, don't get a sniper if this is your first gun, for reasons stated... above.

Also... keep in mind that if you show up at a field with a sniper rifle, and no certification or experience, they're most likely not going to allow you to use it.
Partially because of the MED (minimum engagement distance) needed for a sniper rifle, you need a certain amount of experience in order to operate a sniper rifle, and play the role of the sniper safely.
The sniper clinics are great for further education and expansion on this... Find more info on the forums about them. If you are a certified sniper, then fields will most likely trust you a bit more with sniper safety... but when it comes down to it, experience is the dominant factor, that's why you shouldn't be starting up sniping if you're inexperienced.

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[The Chad]

Strelok man, those comics are awesome! MORE!!!!