We PDW NPAS and open bolt kit

CJay · February 23rd, 2011, 02:03

hey guys - just looking for a bit of info before i go buying stuff:

Basically I'm looking into changing my fps and was wandering if the following npas kit would be the kit I'm after. I like the closed bolt design I have and if this one won't fit which one will lol.

http://www.ratech.com.tw/store/produ...?id_product=82

v4vendetta · February 23rd, 2011, 02:29

im pretty sure you will need something specific to the open bolt

Greydingoe · February 23rd, 2011, 02:36

http://www.ratech.com.tw/store/produ...?id_product=26 that is what you will need for the open bolt version.

Dire_Wolf · February 24th, 2011, 14:24

Nice to see posters that read the original question... Yes, that's the one you want for the closed bolt system that you like. Closed bolt has the brass tube that the larger nozzle/valve body thing fits into. The NPAS for the open bolt is basically an adjustable firefly valve, as the open bolt is essentially a gas pistol mechanism.

CJay · February 27th, 2011, 20:54

Ok so I guess my next question is. Will my current closed bolt mags work in an open bolt pdw. Are there any differences at all apart from the mech inside the gun. I'm looking at the open bolt conversion thinking damn that looks way better than te closed bolt in terms of overall functionality and durability.

coach · February 27th, 2011, 21:00

You will need to convert your mags to open bolt as the closed bolt mags are different. There is a kit that is only a few bucks each to do it.

MrBond · February 27th, 2011, 21:04

No they won't but you can buy this conversion kit for 4$ each and then they will work.

CJay · February 27th, 2011, 21:13

Ok that seems easy enough but then I guess my last question is. What seethe actual benefits of switching to open bolt. Is there any real reason to?

faithless · February 28th, 2011, 02:43

There are tons of debate between open bolt and brass tube for WE gbbr. It is really a personal preference.

Open bolt appears more realistic compare to closed bolt. It will function better in a colder environment, for example, a winter outdoor game.

There are a lot of people call the brass tube system "garbage", "totally unreliable" and such. However, many people I know, and myself prefer the closed bolt better. It never failed on me, and npas works great.

Dire_Wolf · February 28th, 2011, 10:12

One bonus of the open bolt system is not having to deal with a nozzle having a bent valve cage.

CJay · February 28th, 2011, 15:47

Well te only problem I've come across so far with the closed bolt is the hop. No matter what I do it's all the way on. I'm gonna disassemble an diagnose methinks lol.

Also with the npas set to be around 330 fps I should be pretty safe in cqb even with mild temp fluctuations at an indoor arena I figure.

CJay · March 1st, 2011, 17:54

Also the open bolt kit mentioned. Does I have everything I need to convert to open bolt apart from th mag conversions and so I need to buy anything else along with it?

Dire_Wolf · March 1st, 2011, 18:34

with a pdw, the kit comes with everything you need, but any more than one mag you'll need the extra mag conversion kits for $3-5

CJay · March 1st, 2011, 18:52

Sounds good methinks. As much as o don't wanna shell for the mag conversions I may as well for the nice cycle speed.

CJay · March 1st, 2011, 23:08

ok so to clarify - if im using m4 mags in the gun then i need the m4 open bolt kit and if i use the pdw mags i need the pdw mag kit or do i need the pdw mag conversion reguarless of the magazine i'm using - i just ask because the gun takes both types of mags and i wanna convert them all.

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February 23rd, 2011, 02:03	#1
CJay Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belle River, ON	We PDW NPAS and open bolt kit hey guys - just looking for a bit of info before i go buying stuff: Basically I'm looking into changing my fps and was wandering if the following npas kit would be the kit I'm after. I like the closed bolt design I have and if this one won't fit which one will lol. http://www.ratech.com.tw/store/produ...?id_product=82 __________________ "Creator of the Zombat Sniper - oh yeah baby"

February 24th, 2011, 14:24	#4
Dire_Wolf Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta	Nice to see posters that read the original question... Yes, that's the one you want for the closed bolt system that you like. Closed bolt has the brass tube that the larger nozzle/valve body thing fits into. The NPAS for the open bolt is basically an adjustable firefly valve, as the open bolt is essentially a gas pistol mechanism. __________________ Current Gear: TM G36C/SL-9, WE M14, WE PDW, KWA USP, KJW USP Tactical Future Gear: TM PSG1, M700, ARES DSR-1 v2

February 27th, 2011, 20:54	#5
CJay Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belle River, ON	Ok so I guess my next question is. Will my current closed bolt mags work in an open bolt pdw. Are there any differences at all apart from the mech inside the gun. I'm looking at the open bolt conversion thinking damn that looks way better than te closed bolt in terms of overall functionality and durability. __________________ "Creator of the Zombat Sniper - oh yeah baby"

February 23rd, 2011, 02:29	#2
v4vendetta Banned Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2011	im pretty sure you will need something specific to the open bolt

February 23rd, 2011, 02:36	#3
Greydingoe Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calgary	http://www.ratech.com.tw/store/produ...?id_product=26 that is what you will need for the open bolt version.

February 27th, 2011, 21:00	#6
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	You will need to convert your mags to open bolt as the closed bolt mags are different. There is a kit that is only a few bucks each to do it.

February 27th, 2011, 21:04	#7
MrBond formerly tattoodan Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal	No they won't but you can buy this conversion kit for 4$ each and then they will work. __________________ *Team Mandrills*

February 27th, 2011, 21:13	#8
CJay Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belle River, ON	Ok that seems easy enough but then I guess my last question is. What seethe actual benefits of switching to open bolt. Is there any real reason to? __________________ "Creator of the Zombat Sniper - oh yeah baby"

February 28th, 2011, 02:43	#9
faithless Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: North York/Bruce County, ON	There are tons of debate between open bolt and brass tube for WE gbbr. It is really a personal preference. Open bolt appears more realistic compare to closed bolt. It will function better in a colder environment, for example, a winter outdoor game. There are a lot of people call the brass tube system "garbage", "totally unreliable" and such. However, many people I know, and myself prefer the closed bolt better. It never failed on me, and npas works great.

February 28th, 2011, 10:12	#10
Dire_Wolf Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta	One bonus of the open bolt system is not having to deal with a nozzle having a bent valve cage. __________________ Current Gear: TM G36C/SL-9, WE M14, WE PDW, KWA USP, KJW USP Tactical Future Gear: TM PSG1, M700, ARES DSR-1 v2

February 28th, 2011, 15:47	#11
CJay Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belle River, ON	Well te only problem I've come across so far with the closed bolt is the hop. No matter what I do it's all the way on. I'm gonna disassemble an diagnose methinks lol. Also with the npas set to be around 330 fps I should be pretty safe in cqb even with mild temp fluctuations at an indoor arena I figure. __________________ "Creator of the Zombat Sniper - oh yeah baby"

March 1st, 2011, 17:54	#12
CJay Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belle River, ON	Also the open bolt kit mentioned. Does I have everything I need to convert to open bolt apart from th mag conversions and so I need to buy anything else along with it? __________________ "Creator of the Zombat Sniper - oh yeah baby"

March 1st, 2011, 18:34	#13
Dire_Wolf Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta	with a pdw, the kit comes with everything you need, but any more than one mag you'll need the extra mag conversion kits for $3-5 __________________ Current Gear: TM G36C/SL-9, WE M14, WE PDW, KWA USP, KJW USP Tactical Future Gear: TM PSG1, M700, ARES DSR-1 v2

March 1st, 2011, 18:52	#14
CJay Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belle River, ON	Sounds good methinks. As much as o don't wanna shell for the mag conversions I may as well for the nice cycle speed. __________________ "Creator of the Zombat Sniper - oh yeah baby"

March 1st, 2011, 23:08	#15
CJay Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belle River, ON	ok so to clarify - if im using m4 mags in the gun then i need the m4 open bolt kit and if i use the pdw mags i need the pdw mag kit or do i need the pdw mag conversion reguarless of the magazine i'm using - i just ask because the gun takes both types of mags and i wanna convert them all. __________________ "Creator of the Zombat Sniper - oh yeah baby"

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