IR Chemsticks

[Gunny1980]

Hello all, i recieved some IR chemsticks from a friend of mne and tried them out with a Gen 1 NVD (night owl) but to my suprise.......nothing! Is there a certain minimum Generation level that is required to be able to see the light? Thanks in advance

[Dynamo]

did you crack the chemstick to brake the glass inside?

[Gunny1980]

lol yes i did

[Grey Ops]

Originally Posted by Gunny1980

lol yes i did

Did you take the wrapper off? :P

In any case, it could have already been broken in storage/transit. Have you tried it with any others? I think they're suppose to work with gen 1 and up.

[panzergrenadier]

Check the expiry date on the package... Sometimes the expiry actually is right with chemsticks...

[Gunny1980]

yes the wrapper was off as well lol. As far as expirary date they are still good till 2014. Just for ref the are the Cyalume 8 hr IR Chemlight *edit* Just noticed a section on the left of wrapper that says "FOR USE WITH INTENSIFIED NIGHT VISION DEVICES" Perhaps Gen 1 isnt strong enough?

[ccyg8774]

just wikied, and found that:
"First generation passive devices, introduced during the Vietnam War, were an adaptation of earlier active GEN 0 technology, and rely on ambient light instead of an infrared light source."


Please ignore the crossed out text. That is wrong. Thank Drake for point that out.

[Gunny1980]

That may be true but it will still easily pick up the IR light on my PEQ16 ah well

[ccyg8774]

A real AN-PEQ16? Wow. That is not something common.

[Viperfish]

Originally Posted by ccyg8774

A real AN-PEQ16? Wow. That is not something common.

im going to venture a guess he is talking about the clone one, which has an ir light on it.

OP: maybe the stick was already cracked, if not then yours was just defective, happens every so often.

Just so we are clear it was the red stick right?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by ccyg8774

just wikied, and found that:
"First generation passive devices, introduced during the Vietnam War, were an adaptation of earlier active GEN 0 technology, and rely on ambient light instead of an infrared light source."
Therefore, it would be reasonable if they don't see IR Chemsticks.

Yeah, except no. (you get an F for reading comprehension)

Gen 0 were active devices, they absolutely required a large IR projector in order to work; no IR projector, no night vision.

Gen 1 did not require an active projector as it could intensify low levels of ambient light (passive), but they could still see IR light sources.

Point in case, most Gen 1 NV devices have an IR light source. My Gen 1 NV has no problem seeing the IR stobe on my SF HL1, various remotes and yes, IR glowsticks. On Gen 1, don't expect much by way of illumination with the IR glowsticks; they're more like glowing markers (think glow in the dark tape in the visible spectrum).

@Op your glowsticks were duds.

[ThunderCactus]

Pretty sure you can still pick up IR chem sticks with starlights. They were designed to pick up IR light after all.

My gen1 picks up IR chem sticks just fine.

[Blackthorne]

GEN1 should pick up IR sticks no problem. Probably a dud.

[ccyg8774]

Originally Posted by Drake

Yeah, except no. (you get an F for reading comprehension)

Gen 0 were active devices, they absolutely required a large IR projector in order to work; no IR projector, no night vision.

Gen 1 did not require an active projector as it could intensify low levels of ambient light (passive), but they could still see IR light sources.

Point in case, most Gen 1 NV devices have an IR light source. My Gen 1 NV has no problem seeing the IR stobe on my SF HL1, various remotes and yes, IR glowsticks. On Gen 1, don't expect much by way of illumination with the IR glowsticks; they're more like glowing markers (think glow in the dark tape in the visible spectrum).

@Op your glowsticks were duds.

OK, I was wrong, thanks for point that out, and thanks for the information.

[Gunny1980]

@ All- Thanks for the help guys, im going to chalk it all up to the entire box being defective. Shitty but hey they were free. Thanks again for the input