Knife kill

Scotcho1.0 · August 20th, 2012, 14:47

Hello again friends, I played at soldier of fortune on Sunday. It was my first milsim game, and I had a great time. At one point I was providing security to a path awaiting further orders. To my dismay I turned around and was staring down the barrel of two spec ops ak's. I was taken hostage with a knife to my throat and questioned (I gave up no one!), then taken out of the game. It seemed a little silly, but it added an aspect to the game that really got my adrenaline going. Well done I must say. But as it was all happening I felt there was moments were I could free myself and turn the tables. Is it against the rules to bat a knife away from a player.nor am I just to go with it? I didn't act this time because I was unsure of the rules of engagement...

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Spawn28 · August 20th, 2012, 15:03

Think that is a pretty grey area. Personnaly i would just go with it unless i knew 100% that battin the knife away or turning the tables wouldnt hurt anyone or go against field knife rules. Side note: Why were they using a knife to secure a hostage i would have just used my gun usually a knife to the throat or any body part counts as an instant knife KILL not a mercy/disarming. just my 0.02 cents but really it would be up to the game/field rules oh and propper judgement.

Note: i have been knifed before by Claymore in the middle of the night and yes it scared the living shit outa me so bad i actually shot him afterwards in a reflex move. It all happend so fast. I said it then and ill say it now "Sorry Claymore it was reflex" he was laughing so hard afterwards i think he knew he got the better of me and the 5 guys before me in our Main base.

Styrak · August 20th, 2012, 15:08

It all depends on the host's rules. Always follow those.

Brian McIlmoyle · August 20th, 2012, 15:20

Generally the rules with knives are .. touch to kill...

we don't really want to get into hand to hand combat.. ( ok that is I lie.. I totally want to get into hand to hand combat.. but it's not practical )

the only way then to defend yourself is to smack away the hand holding it.. which could be classified as an assault if the other person did not consent to contact.

ShelledPants · August 20th, 2012, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

Generally the rules with knives are .. touch to kill...

we don't really want to get into hand to hand combat.. ( ok that is I lie.. I totally want to get into hand to hand combat.. but it's not practical )

the only way then to defend yourself is to smack away the hand holding it.. which could be classified as an assault if the other person did not consent to contact.

Or shoot them.

I vote shoot them.

Brian McIlmoyle · August 20th, 2012, 15:42

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants

Or shoot them.

I vote shoot them.

you would... you're just one of those guys who like to go around shooting things..

Styrak · August 20th, 2012, 15:53

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants

Or shoot them.

I vote shoot them.

Throw down your rifle and say "Let's fight this out like men".

When the other guy throws down their rifle as well and pulls out a knife, you pull your sidearm and shoot them, Indiana Jones style.

Sounds like a solid plan.

5kull · August 20th, 2012, 16:15

If somebody got the better of me and managed to put a knife on my throat, I would just accept it for several reasons. First respect for their skills, second it takes the game to a new level because now have a hostage, third and most important.... I don't want to start something that might escalate into something physical and negative.

In my book, the person attacking as a responsibility of being in control of is attack so that he wont hurt the target. The target as the responsibility to surrender if their his a danger of being hurt by resisting to much. It's Airsoft, not SAS training with real weapons, we are there to have fun

If I read you correctly, you enjoyed the action so my guess is that you had the right reaction.

Take care, 5kull

Scotcho1.0 · August 20th, 2012, 16:30

Those are all solid answers, thanks.

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j3ttamaster · August 20th, 2012, 16:56

I was at that game, the team that took you hostage DO NOT accept mercy at all, if you place a gun/knife to there backs they'll slap the gun down and shot you ever time, I refuse to mercy there team now for this reason.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the tactic I guess, but not something I would do, I would accept a mercy, but a knife to the neck is a kill to me.

Affliction · August 20th, 2012, 17:32

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Originally Posted by j3ttamaster

I was at that game, the team that took you hostage DO NOT accept mercy at all, if you place a gun/knife to there backs they'll slap the gun down and shot you ever time, I refuse to mercy there team now for this reason.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the tactic I guess, but not something I would do, I would accept a mercy, but a knife to the neck is a kill to me.

Anyone that does that deserves an ass kicking.

Mercy is just that, the act of showing another player MERCY by not shooting them at close range with an outdoor gun. You call mercy and they didn't see you, they're dead no questions asked. Players shouldn't have to be cautious about mercying others, the point is -- you could have shot them but instead you chose not to risk their safety by calling mercy.

sticks · August 20th, 2012, 18:32

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Originally Posted by j3ttamaster

I was at that game, the team that took you hostage DO NOT accept mercy at all, if you place a gun/knife to there backs they'll slap the gun down and shot you ever time, I refuse to mercy there team now for this reason.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the tactic I guess, but not something I would do, I would accept a mercy, but a knife to the neck is a kill to me.

j3ttamaster, Is the Team that you are talking about, the same team we were having problems with all day?

j3ttamaster · August 20th, 2012, 20:06

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Originally Posted by sticks

j3ttamaster, Is the Team that you are talking about, the same team we were having problems with all day?

Yep

sticks · August 20th, 2012, 20:20

Taking Hostages and interrogating players, was not part of the game either. Nor was using our dead teammates as cover to move up paths. But now I'm getting off topic. As far as I'm concerned, the OP had a good time and if it was all in fun, then great. I'm happy that common sense prevailed.

Slow · August 20th, 2012, 20:35

There are certain individuals that i would never attempt to knife, due to the past training in the CF

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August 20th, 2012, 14:47	#1
Scotcho1.0 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: guelph on	Knife kill Hello again friends, I played at soldier of fortune on Sunday. It was my first milsim game, and I had a great time. At one point I was providing security to a path awaiting further orders. To my dismay I turned around and was staring down the barrel of two spec ops ak's. I was taken hostage with a knife to my throat and questioned (I gave up no one!), then taken out of the game. It seemed a little silly, but it added an aspect to the game that really got my adrenaline going. Well done I must say. But as it was all happening I felt there was moments were I could free myself and turn the tables. Is it against the rules to bat a knife away from a player.nor am I just to go with it? I didn't act this time because I was unsure of the rules of engagement... Sent from my T8788 using Board Express

August 20th, 2012, 15:03	#2
Spawn28 I am manly hear me squeek Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Bay The Gateway to Hells Ars!	Think that is a pretty grey area. Personnaly i would just go with it unless i knew 100% that battin the knife away or turning the tables wouldnt hurt anyone or go against field knife rules. Side note: Why were they using a knife to secure a hostage i would have just used my gun usually a knife to the throat or any body part counts as an instant knife KILL not a mercy/disarming. just my 0.02 cents but really it would be up to the game/field rules oh and propper judgement. Note: i have been knifed before by Claymore in the middle of the night and yes it scared the living shit outa me so bad i actually shot him afterwards in a reflex move. It all happend so fast. I said it then and ill say it now "Sorry Claymore it was reflex" he was laughing so hard afterwards i think he knew he got the better of me and the 5 guys before me in our Main base. __________________ Last edited by Spawn28; August 20th, 2012 at 15:08..

August 20th, 2012, 15:08	#3
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	It all depends on the host's rules. Always follow those. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

August 20th, 2012, 15:20	#4
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	Generally the rules with knives are .. touch to kill... we don't really want to get into hand to hand combat.. ( ok that is I lie.. I totally want to get into hand to hand combat.. but it's not practical ) the only way then to defend yourself is to smack away the hand holding it.. which could be classified as an assault if the other person did not consent to contact. __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

August 20th, 2012, 16:15	#8
5kull Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009	If somebody got the better of me and managed to put a knife on my throat, I would just accept it for several reasons. First respect for their skills, second it takes the game to a new level because now have a hostage, third and most important.... I don't want to start something that might escalate into something physical and negative. In my book, the person attacking as a responsibility of being in control of is attack so that he wont hurt the target. The target as the responsibility to surrender if their his a danger of being hurt by resisting to much. It's Airsoft, not SAS training with real weapons, we are there to have fun If I read you correctly, you enjoyed the action so my guess is that you had the right reaction. Take care, 5kull

August 20th, 2012, 16:30	#9
Scotcho1.0 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: guelph on	Those are all solid answers, thanks. Sent from my T8788 using Board Express

August 20th, 2012, 16:56	#10
j3ttamaster Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Ontario	I was at that game, the team that took you hostage DO NOT accept mercy at all, if you place a gun/knife to there backs they'll slap the gun down and shot you ever time, I refuse to mercy there team now for this reason. I don't think there's anything wrong with the tactic I guess, but not something I would do, I would accept a mercy, but a knife to the neck is a kill to me. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/RaptureTeamAirsoft

August 20th, 2012, 20:20	#14
sticks Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St. marys, ON	Taking Hostages and interrogating players, was not part of the game either. Nor was using our dead teammates as cover to move up paths. But now I'm getting off topic. As far as I'm concerned, the OP had a good time and if it was all in fun, then great. I'm happy that common sense prevailed.

August 20th, 2012, 20:35	#15
Slow Loves Furries Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Manitoba	There are certain individuals that i would never attempt to knife, due to the past training in the CF __________________ If ASC were real life, there would be no Chuck Norris, only CDN_Stalker MANITOBA IVAN

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