G&G MP5 SD6 MAX effective range

[R700]

On average, my VFC SR16 goes 350 fps with .30 grams and has a nice medium range.It can do 80 ft accurately and can push into 100 effectively as a stock AEG.

What can i expect from the G&G MP5 SD6 MAX for an accurate range and effective range. According to the stats, this model claims to go 432 fps with .20 grams, 210 mm inner barrel and a 6.04 tight bore, version 2 gear box and a m130 spring.

I am considering this model. Any input would be great, preferably from owners of the MAX series. This would be a backup to my VFC SR16. Let me know your takes from experience, good or bad. I am not interested in suggestions for other AEGs and "why" do you want this model responses. If you have any feedback, please relate it to the max series product line instead of other brands.

[yaric]

If anyone in GTA has a place where we can test it.

[Hectic]

100ft thats it?
I think you need to adjust your hop up or maybe get a new rubber or some better bb's.
Most stock aegs shooting 350-400 fps should have an effective range of 150-200 feet (most closer to 150) my stock mp5k with a barrel the size of a pistol (120mm or so) and a promy bridge hop shoots 200 feet plus accurately
My m4 with a 455 tight bore and bridge hop is close to 250 feet
My ak is about the same
This holds true for almost all aegs from cheap cymas and echo1 to expensive vfc and tm
(ill note my mp5k is a cyma my m4 is an echo1 ak is an lct)

[Cokeman]

Originally Posted by Hectic

100ft thats it?
I think you need to adjust your hop up or maybe get a new rubber or some better bb's.
Most stock aegs shooting 350-400 fps should have an effective range of 150-200 feet (most closer to 150) my stock mp5k with a barrel the size of a pistol (120mm or so) and a promy bridge hop shoots 200 feet plus accurately
My m4 with a 455 tight bore and bridge hop is close to 250 feet
My ak is about the same
This holds true for almost all aegs from cheap cymas and echo1 to expensive vfc and tm
(ill note my mp5k is a cyma my m4 is an echo1 ak is an lct)

My experience is similar to the original poster - 100 to 120 feet is my max range that I can hit someone. Beyond that, I really have to aim upwards and try to drop the BBs on him/her. Take a look at the Airsoft Trajectory Project for a 400 fps using 0.2 g BBs. There are three curves for a 0.2, 0.25 and 0.3 g BB. All of them experience significant dropoff after about 110 feet. So, I am amazed that you are accurate to 200 and 250 feet.

What are other people's experiences with effective distance?

[Styrak]

It's also likely most people's judgement of distance is crap.

[BennyBoy]

AEGs should have easy time at 100ft...if you're dropping then your hop-up is messed up.
Use heavier BBs too, will have better effective distance than lighter BBs.

[R700]

Thanks Cokeman for the link. I've paced out my accurate range on my friend. Like i said before 80 fts is accurate, 100 is effective and sure my bbs go 150-175 maximum. I am not talking maximum for the guys who say they hit at 250 feet. When i say accurately, i am talking about proper hop up adjustment and point of aim is point of impact. My hop up units are fine. This post is not about improper hop up adjustment or broken hops ups. It's about the effective range of an AEG with a heavier spring and shorter barrel then my VFC SR16. There is a point when the AEG is useless regardless of the maximum range.

My point is if the 210 inner barrel, with m130 spring at 430 fps will produce similiar results as above. I have an ICS MP5 A2, inner barrel 229, with a M100 spring going 320 fps with .20s, which is my indoor AEG. That is good for 50 ft accurately.

Just wondering if the G&G MP5 SD6 with the heavier spring and shorter barrel will get same results as my VFC which has a m110 and an inner barrel of 340mm. I like the MP5 series and i want to dedicate this version to outdoors only as a back up primary.

[dodgetheram]

I own one, as well as the field I play rents them. They fire amazingly accurate and quickly made me put down my gp m4 as my favorite. I shoot 25's and on a calm day reaching out accurately to 150-180 ft is easy. Now mine has a tighty installed and its slightly longer barrel (1.5 cm), but even the bone stock ones shot nearly as nice with little difference in range!!! In fact somone has bought this gun within a week of running mine!! Buy this gun, you will not be disappointed. Oh and I watched 4 of these guns (exactally like sd6 only has fixed stock) take the most sever beating by a ruthless pack of 12 year olds for three days straight and they still seem to fire just as good as new!!

[Rusty Lugnuts]

Originally Posted by Styrak

It's also likely most people's judgement of distance is crap.

I agree with this, i bought a 100 ft tape and accurately laid out some distance markers. Only 1 gun could shoot 250 ft. (and we tested 16 different guns so far) a $95 mp5 that chronod at 315 fps could manage 175 ft. Most stock guns could manage between 190 to 210 ft. Guests are surprised when they see how far 200 ft actually is.

[R700]

I went ahead and ordered the g&g mp5 sd6 max. I plan to install the mad bull tight bore 6.03 inner barrel on it which was intended to be used on my indoor ICS which is a great AEG for indoor. I think this G&G will suffice for a secondary AEG slung around the back to use every once in a while. Thanks for the advice and links.

[Leclerc66]

I have the Umarex one and it shoot 200ft with a 325fps spring w/.25g bbs but stopped to be accurate after 180ft. Could hit 7/10 at 150ft, 9/10 at 100ft and 10/10 at 50ft. Targets were about 1 square ft

[Hectic]

Thats without hopup look at the seccond graph "with hop up" then combine that with a more effective hop up (like R hop or flat hop or bridge hop) then adjust the hop up so you have a small hump between 100 and 150 feet and see the range you can get. Obviously at 200-300 feet youll have to compensate for range/"bullet drop" like youd have to for a real rifle at longer rsnges.

Originally Posted by Cokeman

My experience is similar to the original poster - 100 to 120 feet is my max range that I can hit someone. Beyond that, I really have to aim upwards and try to drop the BBs on him/her. Take a look at the Airsoft Trajectory Project for a 400 fps using 0.2 g BBs. There are three curves for a 0.2, 0.25 and 0.3 g BB. All of them experience significant dropoff after about 110 feet. So, I am amazed that you are accurate to 200 and 250 feet.

What are other people's experiences with effective distance?

[ThunderCactus]

The weight of your ammo is really what determines maximum range, assuming everything else on your gun is optimal.
Match your fps to BB weight, so at 400-440fps on .2s you should be using .3 or .32
Fps does not directly equal range, its compression, hop, barrel QUALITY, fps and bb weight that determine functional range.

Heavier ammo will increase both max range and accuracy at range
A .2 travelling 500fps won't fly as far as a .36 travelling 300fps
And the first thing you should upgrade in any gun, is the hop rubber, since it and bb weight tend to have the greatest effect on range and accuracy

[BennyBoy]

I was forced to use my back up since it was too cold for GBBs yesterday and I could hit easily at 100ft with a bonestock VFC PDW(10" barrel) using 0.3s. Hell it was using a m90 spring as well. The BBs traveled really slowly though but was roughly 2' groupings with all that wind at 100'. Though I had many kills at about 150', the spring wasn't strong enough to give it a noticeable impact and some just didn't notice they got hit.

stock VFC PDW 10" inner barrel, m90 spring, 0.3 BBs and 11.1v battery. Got 'er done!