Lonex Next-Gen M4 Hop-Up Chamber

Rabbit · May 2nd, 2014, 12:14

Sour post - maybe a mod can delete. I just realized it was for the recoil system. BOO.

Stealth · May 2nd, 2014, 12:16

I think you're getting the "next gen" part mixed up. This hop-up unit has been out for sometime and we brought some in for special order a few months back.

It's for Marui Next-Gen (Shoot & Recoil engine).

It's cool that it got your D hard tho...it's cool man.

Rabbit · May 2nd, 2014, 12:25

Fack. I guess I didn't edit my OP fast enough.

Still love those innovations tho. This is embarrassing someone delete this thread LOL.

lurkingknight · May 2nd, 2014, 15:08

may your derp be remembered for all time.

Spike · May 2nd, 2014, 15:27

Y'all mothafuckas need pro-win

airsoftmaniacman · May 2nd, 2014, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

Y'all mothafuckas need pro-win

ProWin are pretty terrible for R-Hopping, and they are exceptionally bad for ER-Hopping. For a normal flat hop or drop-in bucking, they work incredibly well though. The nub pressure point is too close to the pivot point.

Rabbit · May 2nd, 2014, 16:17

The praise for this unit is all over the internet.

So I bought one.

Paired with a Prometheus purple sleeve and stock Umarex inner barrel it wouldn't feed in my 416, tolerances must have been too tight or something - swapped for a Lonex 50d and all was gravy.

I don't like not having a spring at the front for it to push against the gearbox.

I'd really like to see comparisons with the Prowin and other similar units go up against an r-hop at 400fps (the standard field/game limit.)

Flame on - but im still not sold on the rhop mysticism.

lurkingknight · May 2nd, 2014, 16:32

there's no mysticism behind it. properly tuned it can outperform just about everything.

ShadowTwoSix · May 16th, 2014, 10:34

I've actually had great results with the Prowin in a VFC 416 (390fps). Have it paired with the Maple Leaf 60 Bucking and curved nub along with a 363mm Deep Fire 6.03 TB. No hard numbers on range I'm getting with .28s but I can say I'm getting much farther and straighter hits than I was expecting. I realize people have had mixed results with each of these items but they seem to work great together in my 416!

And Rabbit, I did find that the Prowin chamber seems to taper the bucking lips a little more than other chambers. I specifically encountered the exact same issues you did with the Prometheus buckings. However, with the Maple Leaf it seems it be just the right combination!

Rabbit · May 16th, 2014, 10:49

I have the Maple Leaf 60degree...sheeeeit..I dont trust it tho! That inner mound is just...so different..Why do they include a flat hop curved nub with it? Ive read that it HAS to be used with it for the vest best in results...

Sometimes I hate living in the core of the city..i just wish I had a nice stretch of land/farm land to have some sort of comparison test...

Over the years i've accumulated all sorts of hop up units and buckings & nubs I have drawer full now..

Its a fucking gamble to go to a game now and just HOPE you're going to get that range you were getting before or at least an improvement. I've developed a complex now in airsoft that if my set up isn't performing like I want it to - or did - it just EATS at my brain!

Side note: I've made the jump from a Prometheus purple to a Systema Energy, I almost straight doo doo'd in my pants when I noticed the FPS increase..my previous builds have netted me in and around 390-403fps with an m120 & sorbo set..after the Systema Energy I jumped to 414fps with out the teflon wrap. Consistent as shit too.

I find the Systema Energy's are only marginally softer than a Prommy purple - but the inner mound is wider (more bb contact) which me likey.

ShadowTwoSix · May 16th, 2014, 22:37

I hear ya. I'm in the same boat and I also only get to test my setup on gamedays.

My understanding is that the curved nub helps maintain the curved mound where as a standard nub will press on the highest point of the bucking and possibly negate the curved contact with the BB.

The other wrench, I found, is the barrel. I got lucky that my Deep Fire TB happens to fit the Maple Leaf bucking perfectly. Whereas my brother's Promy Tb doesn't fit the Maple Leaf at all due the the barrel's window size.

Spike · May 16th, 2014, 23:21

I've used the pro win chamber with G&G green buckings (which are suprisingly amazing) and PDI w holds and both have worked great with pretty much any barrel that I've tried.

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May 2nd, 2014, 12:14	#1
Rabbit formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamilton	Lonex Next-Gen M4 Hop-Up Chamber Sour post - maybe a mod can delete. I just realized it was for the recoil system. BOO. Last edited by Rabbit; May 2nd, 2014 at 12:17..

May 2nd, 2014, 15:08	#4
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	may your derp be remembered for all time. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

May 2nd, 2014, 15:27	#5
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	Y'all mothafuckas need pro-win __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

May 2nd, 2014, 12:16	#2
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	I think you're getting the "next gen" part mixed up. This hop-up unit has been out for sometime and we brought some in for special order a few months back. It's for Marui Next-Gen (Shoot & Recoil engine). It's cool that it got your D hard tho...it's cool man.

May 2nd, 2014, 12:25	#3
Rabbit formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamilton	Fack. I guess I didn't edit my OP fast enough. Still love those innovations tho. This is embarrassing someone delete this thread LOL.

May 2nd, 2014, 16:17	#7
Rabbit formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamilton	The praise for this unit is all over the internet. So I bought one. Paired with a Prometheus purple sleeve and stock Umarex inner barrel it wouldn't feed in my 416, tolerances must have been too tight or something - swapped for a Lonex 50d and all was gravy. I don't like not having a spring at the front for it to push against the gearbox. I'd really like to see comparisons with the Prowin and other similar units go up against an r-hop at 400fps (the standard field/game limit.) Flame on - but im still not sold on the rhop mysticism. Last edited by Rabbit; May 2nd, 2014 at 16:21..

May 2nd, 2014, 16:32	#8
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	there's no mysticism behind it. properly tuned it can outperform just about everything. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

May 16th, 2014, 10:34	#9
ShadowTwoSix Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Langley, British Columbia	I've actually had great results with the Prowin in a VFC 416 (390fps). Have it paired with the Maple Leaf 60 Bucking and curved nub along with a 363mm Deep Fire 6.03 TB. No hard numbers on range I'm getting with .28s but I can say I'm getting much farther and straighter hits than I was expecting. I realize people have had mixed results with each of these items but they seem to work great together in my 416! And Rabbit, I did find that the Prowin chamber seems to taper the bucking lips a little more than other chambers. I specifically encountered the exact same issues you did with the Prometheus buckings. However, with the Maple Leaf it seems it be just the right combination! __________________ ShadowTwoSix's Airsoft Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/AirsoftAllThingsTactical/

May 16th, 2014, 10:49	#10
Rabbit formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamilton	I have the Maple Leaf 60degree...sheeeeit..I dont trust it tho! That inner mound is just...so different..Why do they include a flat hop curved nub with it? Ive read that it HAS to be used with it for the vest best in results... Sometimes I hate living in the core of the city..i just wish I had a nice stretch of land/farm land to have some sort of comparison test... Over the years i've accumulated all sorts of hop up units and buckings & nubs I have drawer full now.. Its a fucking gamble to go to a game now and just HOPE you're going to get that range you were getting before or at least an improvement. I've developed a complex now in airsoft that if my set up isn't performing like I want it to - or did - it just EATS at my brain! Side note: I've made the jump from a Prometheus purple to a Systema Energy, I almost straight doo doo'd in my pants when I noticed the FPS increase..my previous builds have netted me in and around 390-403fps with an m120 & sorbo set..after the Systema Energy I jumped to 414fps with out the teflon wrap. Consistent as shit too. I find the Systema Energy's are only marginally softer than a Prommy purple - but the inner mound is wider (more bb contact) which me likey. Last edited by Rabbit; May 17th, 2014 at 12:36..

May 16th, 2014, 22:37	#11
ShadowTwoSix Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Langley, British Columbia	I hear ya. I'm in the same boat and I also only get to test my setup on gamedays. My understanding is that the curved nub helps maintain the curved mound where as a standard nub will press on the highest point of the bucking and possibly negate the curved contact with the BB. The other wrench, I found, is the barrel. I got lucky that my Deep Fire TB happens to fit the Maple Leaf bucking perfectly. Whereas my brother's Promy Tb doesn't fit the Maple Leaf at all due the the barrel's window size. __________________ ShadowTwoSix's Airsoft Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/AirsoftAllThingsTactical/

May 16th, 2014, 23:21	#12
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	I've used the pro win chamber with G&G green buckings (which are suprisingly amazing) and PDI w holds and both have worked great with pretty much any barrel that I've tried. __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

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