Froglube or Fireclean

tcc · August 24th, 2014, 15:14

Hello All,

Been doing some reading on froglube and it seems like great stuff but you have to heat/warm up the piece you're working on. What do users use to do this?

I've also read about Fireclean but not sure if it's safe for airsoft guns but is easier to use. Anyone use this before?

tia

localfreerider · August 24th, 2014, 16:49

I use frog lub and don't use heat. It is nice to use heat as it turns the paste to a thick greasy liquid but I haven't had problems using it cold.

Rememberows · August 24th, 2014, 19:06

You also have froglube in its liquid form for a fast lubricating way to go. But I do heat it up a little for winter storage.

mr_nuts31 · August 24th, 2014, 19:12

I've used froglube paste as well and it works great even when you don't heat it up. My only problem is that all my guns smell like mint toothpaste which kinda disturbs my family for some reason.

redzaku · August 24th, 2014, 19:52

I'd go with frog lube, because it is edible, it would not kill you, therefore would not harm your gun

Short Round · August 24th, 2014, 20:38

Froglube!!

tcc · August 25th, 2014, 01:16

Great, thanks guys.

How do you apply it...brush?

redzaku · August 25th, 2014, 02:01

haven't watched this vid in a while, i am certain that he shows how to apply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqQ_GEC6EKE

tcc · August 25th, 2014, 12:41

Thanks.

Been reading some reviews and comments by people who say it gums up their guns (rs).

Anyone have this issue?

Gunny1980 · August 25th, 2014, 15:27

I find if your gun sits around for a long time it can. I just add a few drops work it in and its gtg.

SF_Chewy · August 25th, 2014, 16:44

I've have both and used the liquid extensively.

First and foremost you have to realize that FrogLube does not work well with other greases/lubes/CLP. From what I gather this is what leads to the "gumming up" that people may have experienced. What I read is that you're supposed to use FrogLube, initially, as a cleaner. It will break down the other stuff (lube/grease) left over and wipe it clean. After you've used it to clean up, you use it to lube.

With my GBBRs and GBBPs I've done the following after cleaning with the lube:
- Remove all plastic parts from all components (ie. on a GBBR I'd remove plastic nozzle, guides, o-rings, etc)
- Plastic parts that are removed can be lubed separately
- Then with all metal parts I coated them, then placed them into a toaster oven on low heat and "cooked it" for about 10 minutes. This heats up the metal and as well heats up the lube itself and allows it to "soak" into the "pores" of the metal
- I would recommend wiping excess away from nozzle as the "wet" lube will get everywhere inside the gun.
- Let the parts cool to the point you can handle, and reassemble.

Result was very smooth and minty cycling on the gun.

Problems I had:
- At first I was over applying and getting lube everywhere, which caused inconsistencies with FPS and hop up, after I cleaned it up it worked well
- Also I didn't fully clean out the receiver with FrogLube either and it was gumming up even though I cleaned the bolt assembly.

Realize that FrogLube is meant for RL firearms, so the effects on airsoft may not be as great. For example, FrogLube is best when it is heated up, so even if it's a bit thicker/gummy after months of storage, the heat from (real) ammunition does reheat both the metal and lube making it reabsorb back into the metal and slick right back up. With airsoft there is no heat, so that positive of the lube is somewhat negated.

What I really like is that it cleans up well and I've had good cycling on my gun from it. It also stores well for me which is an added plus especially if you haven't used your gun in a while and have no time to relube it.

FirestormX · August 25th, 2014, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by redzaku

I'd go with frog lube, because it is edible, it would not kill you, therefore would not harm your gun

In the words of James Randi, "gravel and bird shit are 'natural', and I still wouldn't eat it". However, just because Randi wouldn't eat it, doesn't mean it would kill you if you ate it.

Thus, I've decided to take your advice, and soak my orings in bird shit, and shove gravel between my bolt and receiver.

(I know you're kidding with your logic...Or at least, I hope you are. I just couldn't resist making fun of it)

Gato · August 25th, 2014, 18:38

CLP guis, CLP

SawBone · August 25th, 2014, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcc

Great, thanks guys.

How do you apply it...brush?

I use an old toothbrush lol.

tcc · August 25th, 2014, 20:12

Hmm...that gumming issue has me worried as there are times when I don't use my stuff for a long stretch.

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August 24th, 2014, 15:14	#1
tcc Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto	Froglube or Fireclean Hello All, Been doing some reading on froglube and it seems like great stuff but you have to heat/warm up the piece you're working on. What do users use to do this? I've also read about Fireclean but not sure if it's safe for airsoft guns but is easier to use. Anyone use this before? tia

August 24th, 2014, 19:06	#3
Rememberows Trader rating Join Date: May 2012 Location: Montreal	You also have froglube in its liquid form for a fast lubricating way to go. But I do heat it up a little for winter storage. __________________ Jäger Friedrich Dietz 62865 117 Gruppenführer II. / Fallschirmjäger-Regiment 2

August 24th, 2014, 19:52	#5
redzaku Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Edmonton	I'd go with frog lube, because it is edible, it would not kill you, therefore would not harm your gun __________________ Love and Tolerance Coffee, what purpose does these serve? А ну, чики-брики и в дамки! За Родину! BRRRRRT!

August 24th, 2014, 16:49	#2
localfreerider willing to perform services in a dark alley that may or may not leave you satisfied for a title. GFE = 1, looks = 2, BBFS for an extra $50. Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Never gonna let you down	I use frog lub and don't use heat. It is nice to use heat as it turns the paste to a thick greasy liquid but I haven't had problems using it cold.

August 24th, 2014, 19:12	#4
mr_nuts31 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Petawawa, ON	I've used froglube paste as well and it works great even when you don't heat it up. My only problem is that all my guns smell like mint toothpaste which kinda disturbs my family for some reason.

August 24th, 2014, 20:38	#6
Short Round Najohn Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SkyDome	Froglube!! __________________

August 25th, 2014, 01:16	#7
tcc Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto	Great, thanks guys. How do you apply it...brush?

August 25th, 2014, 02:01	#8
redzaku Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Edmonton	haven't watched this vid in a while, i am certain that he shows how to apply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqQ_GEC6EKE __________________ Love and Tolerance Coffee, what purpose does these serve? А ну, чики-брики и в дамки! За Родину! BRRRRRT!

August 25th, 2014, 12:41	#9
tcc Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto	Thanks. Been reading some reviews and comments by people who say it gums up their guns (rs). Anyone have this issue?

August 25th, 2014, 15:27	#10
Gunny1980 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Whitby ON	I find if your gun sits around for a long time it can. I just add a few drops work it in and its gtg. __________________ NORTHERN GUNFIGHTERS Follow us on: FB Northern Gunfighters IG northern.gunfighters

August 25th, 2014, 16:44	#11
SF_Chewy Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010	I've have both and used the liquid extensively. First and foremost you have to realize that FrogLube does not work well with other greases/lubes/CLP. From what I gather this is what leads to the "gumming up" that people may have experienced. What I read is that you're supposed to use FrogLube, initially, as a cleaner. It will break down the other stuff (lube/grease) left over and wipe it clean. After you've used it to clean up, you use it to lube. With my GBBRs and GBBPs I've done the following after cleaning with the lube: - Remove all plastic parts from all components (ie. on a GBBR I'd remove plastic nozzle, guides, o-rings, etc) - Plastic parts that are removed can be lubed separately - Then with all metal parts I coated them, then placed them into a toaster oven on low heat and "cooked it" for about 10 minutes. This heats up the metal and as well heats up the lube itself and allows it to "soak" into the "pores" of the metal - I would recommend wiping excess away from nozzle as the "wet" lube will get everywhere inside the gun. - Let the parts cool to the point you can handle, and reassemble. Result was very smooth and minty cycling on the gun. Problems I had: - At first I was over applying and getting lube everywhere, which caused inconsistencies with FPS and hop up, after I cleaned it up it worked well - Also I didn't fully clean out the receiver with FrogLube either and it was gumming up even though I cleaned the bolt assembly. Realize that FrogLube is meant for RL firearms, so the effects on airsoft may not be as great. For example, FrogLube is best when it is heated up, so even if it's a bit thicker/gummy after months of storage, the heat from (real) ammunition does reheat both the metal and lube making it reabsorb back into the metal and slick right back up. With airsoft there is no heat, so that positive of the lube is somewhat negated. What I really like is that it cleans up well and I've had good cycling on my gun from it. It also stores well for me which is an added plus especially if you haven't used your gun in a while and have no time to relube it.

August 25th, 2014, 20:12	#15
tcc Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto	Hmm...that gumming issue has me worried as there are times when I don't use my stuff for a long stretch.

Froglube or Fireclean

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