Looking for a sidearm.

From my research, I've gathered that the current Russian issue side-arm is Makarov PM. Does anyone know where I can get the airsoft version, or if there even is one?

Alternatly, what can I get away with? I really want a H&K Mk. 23 but I don't know if it will fit with the Russian theme of my AK and so forth.

EDIT: I now know that Hudson makes a GBB Tokarev, but still looking for something else thats easier to get.

[alex_c_t]

Hudson Tokarev TT-33 - a bit hard to get
KSC CZ-75 (czech gun, but you can pass it off in a russian kit as it was a eastern bloc weapon)

you might want to try a Cougar or M1934 (they kinda resemble a Makarov... or at least, the closest thing to it.)

as far as i know there arent any airsoft makarovs out there

for a russian kit you're probably better off with a 1911 or a glock - just try to go for a spetznas kit in order to explain it

I was thinking on going with a kind of Spetznaz thing, but I'm just going to have a stock AK-47 instead of the beta Spetznaz.

Thanks for the help, I'll go find me a CZ!

[MiniMcNabb]

Originally Posted by Coma Black

I was thinking on going with a kind of Spetznaz thing, but I'm just going to have a stock AK-47 instead of the beta Spetznaz.

Thanks for the help, I'll go find me a CZ!

AFAIK the spetz isin't even a real weapon. Maybe someone who specializes in russian kit can back me up, but I believe that alot of russian SF still use the AK-47 for they prefer the 7.62mm.

So if that is true you should be fine, if not better off with the AK-47 full stock anyways. Its only American SF who HAVE to have a carbine.

I was refering to the TM gun of the same name, but I understand what you mean.

[alex_c_t]

actually, they use more updated weapons, the '74, the 100series, 47s are mostly for second-line/police units, but yeah, the beta spets its not a real gun.

looks damn sexy with that beta silencer screwed in though, almost like a vsr - maybe thats what tm wanted to go for and they just forgot to design the silencer?

Dosn't have to be real to be really fucking cool.

I'd much rather have a AKS-74U, but thats gonna be in the future. My dream is a half-dozen AK variants hanging on my wall. :-)

Yeah, I believe the 74 series rifles are in greater proliferation with the Russian government agencies to keep pace with the stupid 5.56mm trend.

[Gish]

You won't find many Eastern Block handguns, they are far and few. And you defenitly won't find any up to date Russian handguns like the MP-4XX series (Same manufacture as Makrovs)
Closest airsoft weapons are
Hudson TT-33 (Which is really a WW2 weapon)
CZ-75 (Czech)
Skorpion (more of a SMG but is still Eastern blockish)
Walther PPK (Close enough to a Makrov)
Most eastern block players will carry a CZ-75 if anything at all. Normal tactics are that Spetsnaz do not usually carry a backup handgun though as that isn't standard practice.

As for primarys Alex is close the more modern 74/AKM with plastic grips are the most common AK's for Spetsnaz units. You will however see a large mix of whatever they feel like, you'll even see a number of older AKM's with folding stocks in the field.

Thanks for all the help. Now my only problem is getting the money to buy a Skorpion and all. I would imagine that 007 or DEA would order it in for me?

I read the review at Arnies on the Skorpion and am intergred.

[Honza]

i have Cz75 ... i think is best... scorpion vz61 (too czech) was using in vietnam .. russians do not use vz61 lot

[Grim Fandango]

Try to stay away from the Hudson Tokarev. Hudson makes some crap airsoft guns. The KSC CZ would be your best option if you want a field worthy pistol. I believe they even have a full metal version on WGCs site, any retailer should be able to order it for you.

[666]

Unfortunately, full metal KSC CZ is nowhere to be found I've been looking for one for a long time now. There was one sold on ASC, but I didn't see that thread on time.

[Kokanee]

Originally Posted by Coma Black

Yeah, I believe the 74 series rifles are in greater proliferation with the Russian government agencies to keep pace with the stupid 5.56mm trend.

FYI the AK74 was chambered for 5.45mm

I hear you on the aksu, if you get adventerous it isnt too much to mod a spetz into a decent copy...

[aGGaMaN]

I'm thinking the Ak74 was developed more because there was a need for it, then to keep up with the trend of smaller caliber rifles. I mean, lets start with some rifling for example! :idea:

[[Avtomat]]

The bullet used in the Ak47 only go up to a distance of 300 meter. Its more of a advanced war so they need a better caliber so they switched it to the 5.45.