Version two gearbox upgrading

mouse · January 5th, 2006, 21:49

I have a tm M4A1. Got prometheous bearings, ms100 spring, and a systema spring guide with bearings. I am wondering if any of you have the same or similar upgrade's in your version two box and if the gearbox can handle the stress. I am also thinking of how to decrease the force in the front of the gearbox. Maby through i silent head set since it decreases the impulse?

Peace!

Ghost Snake · January 5th, 2006, 22:03

The MS100 is a relatively low power spring. The stock gearbox can easily handle that. A silent head piston would decrease the force, but there is really no need.

Greylocks · January 5th, 2006, 22:11

I hope you did not forget bushings, and read up on how to do this.
As said, unless you want a quieter sound, all you need is the spring and bushings. The bearing guide is a bonus.

mouse · January 5th, 2006, 23:18

Yeah man, first thing i did was get prometheous bearing bushings. Thats what i ment by bearings in my above post but i wasnt specific *blush*.

And here is my mod on my m4a1. I cut the carry handle in the middle so i could mount my rail mounted lazer, and drilled out a few things bah bah bah equals pimp lazer all tucked away and fully usable iron sights so i can chose at my discretion or just pulse the lazer on to see as to where the heck i am aiming.

Greylocks · January 6th, 2006, 07:24

Bearing bushings have a limit on the stress they can take. Normal 'oil-less' bushings are best.

Kid · January 6th, 2006, 08:34

Bearings will certainly do for 100 though. Not really an issue unless he planned to put a 120+ in.

Sekester · January 6th, 2006, 09:24

I have Guarder bearing bushing and prometeus ms100 in my g3, works like a charm!! So if you plan on sticking with the ms100 spring you should be more than are right. The only thing that scare me a bit with the bearing, is if i want to play in cold weather, i do not know how they will react.

Cheers

PS: Dont forget the shims....REALY IMPORTANT

Mantelope · January 6th, 2006, 13:35

With an MS100, you'll notice a pretty big difference with a silent head set. At lower velocities, it can really cut down on the noise. But yeah, unless you're playing in very cold temperatures, you won't have to worry too much about abuse on the mechbox with that spring.

mouse · January 6th, 2006, 15:24

Yeah thanks a million guy, and yeah i have to shim er up but i dont have all my stuff together yet hoping to get it in the mail today.

Aaidin · January 6th, 2006, 23:28

Your M4 Laser mod is pretty sweet. Looks sexy.

mouse · January 7th, 2006, 03:08

Yeah thanks man. I couldnt stand how stupid it looked without the carry handle and i want iron sights some of the time too. A great compromise in my oppinion. Many say why dont you get a ras but truth be told i dont want one i want my lazer out of harms way.

mouse · January 7th, 2006, 15:38

Hmm i am at my wits end finding an angel silent head set for version two (or for any version for that matter). All the oversea's places are out of stock for an in-determined period of time. The only place that has them is almost double the price. Anyone know where in the lower mainland or within a decent area for shipping i can find em? I am sure it would pass customs so if you know any american places with em across the line or a shop in calgary with them would work wonders as well.

Peace!

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January 5th, 2006, 21:49	#1
mouse Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Port Coquitlam	Version two gearbox upgrading I have a tm M4A1. Got prometheous bearings, ms100 spring, and a systema spring guide with bearings. I am wondering if any of you have the same or similar upgrade's in your version two box and if the gearbox can handle the stress. I am also thinking of how to decrease the force in the front of the gearbox. Maby through i silent head set since it decreases the impulse? Peace!

January 5th, 2006, 22:03	#2
Ghost Snake Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Edmonton	The MS100 is a relatively low power spring. The stock gearbox can easily handle that. A silent head piston would decrease the force, but there is really no need. __________________

January 6th, 2006, 09:24	#7
Sekester Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Quebec	I have Guarder bearing bushing and prometeus ms100 in my g3, works like a charm!! So if you plan on sticking with the ms100 spring you should be more than are right. The only thing that scare me a bit with the bearing, is if i want to play in cold weather, i do not know how they will react. Cheers PS: Dont forget the shims....REALY IMPORTANT __________________ Si vis pacem para bellum Death by Azzociation www.contractkillerz.com

January 5th, 2006, 22:11	#3
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	I hope you did not forget bushings, and read up on how to do this. As said, unless you want a quieter sound, all you need is the spring and bushings. The bearing guide is a bonus.

January 6th, 2006, 07:24	#5
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Bearing bushings have a limit on the stress they can take. Normal 'oil-less' bushings are best.

January 6th, 2006, 08:34	#6
Kid Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Moose Jaw, SK	Bearings will certainly do for 100 though. Not really an issue unless he planned to put a 120+ in.

January 6th, 2006, 13:35	#8
Mantelope Scotty aka harleyb Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	With an MS100, you'll notice a pretty big difference with a silent head set. At lower velocities, it can really cut down on the noise. But yeah, unless you're playing in very cold temperatures, you won't have to worry too much about abuse on the mechbox with that spring. __________________

January 6th, 2006, 15:24	#9
mouse Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Port Coquitlam	Yeah thanks a million guy, and yeah i have to shim er up but i dont have all my stuff together yet hoping to get it in the mail today.

January 6th, 2006, 23:28	#10
Aaidin Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abbotsford, BC	Your M4 Laser mod is pretty sweet. Looks sexy.

January 7th, 2006, 03:08	#11
mouse Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Port Coquitlam	Yeah thanks man. I couldnt stand how stupid it looked without the carry handle and i want iron sights some of the time too. A great compromise in my oppinion. Many say why dont you get a ras but truth be told i dont want one i want my lazer out of harms way.

January 7th, 2006, 15:38	#12
mouse Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Port Coquitlam	Hmm i am at my wits end finding an angel silent head set for version two (or for any version for that matter). All the oversea's places are out of stock for an in-determined period of time. The only place that has them is almost double the price. Anyone know where in the lower mainland or within a decent area for shipping i can find em? I am sure it would pass customs so if you know any american places with em across the line or a shop in calgary with them would work wonders as well. Peace!

Version two gearbox upgrading

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