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BobbyDangerous · December 18th, 2018, 17:03

So I own a GHK M4 but I want a 416. I’m looking at the WE 416 and the Umarex VFC Gen 2. I’ve had experience with WE and it’s been awe full with consistency. Not sure how they are now but my previous experience was frustrating. Anyone have any experience with any of these? Thanks..

leth1337 · December 18th, 2018, 17:18

GHK > WE don't go back. NEVER GO BACK!

BobbyDangerous · December 18th, 2018, 18:27

GHk doesn’t make a 416

Full-Auto-Seer · December 22nd, 2018, 02:58

I have no idea firsthand, but I've seen people saying VFC's HK416A5 is quite nice.

manchovie · December 22nd, 2018, 12:10

If you're baller you can get the TM MWS and buy the 416 kit for it. Best system out there in my opinion.

Alternatively I'd say get the WE and use the FG airsoft flow restrictors to tune your fps rather than an NPAS. All my WE guns shot very well unless they had an NPAS installed (though sometimes it works out). Run it stock and take it easy on the bolt release (replace with stock parts as necessary) and it should be good to you for a long time. Mine shot crazy far with a modify hop bucking.

Danke · December 22nd, 2018, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchovie

If you're baller you can get the TM MWS and buy the 416 kit for it. Best system out there in my opinion.

Alternatively I'd say get the WE and use the FG airsoft flow restrictors to tune your fps rather than an NPAS. All my WE guns shot very well unless they had an NPAS installed (though sometimes it works out). Run it stock and take it easy on the bolt release (replace with stock parts as necessary) and it should be good to you for a long time. Mine shot crazy far with a modify hop bucking.

Stock WE valves in the mags?

BobbyDangerous · December 27th, 2018, 18:25

I ended up getting a VFC 416D from trigger. G&P WA PMags work with it. I haven’t gone in a tuned anything yet but it’s shooting around 1.33joules. My GHK is a lot
hotter stock.

Yannix · March 8th, 2019, 14:27

You should've looked up the KWA hk416 (basicly the LM4 reskined) really nice piece and solid internals. fitted a simple TNT kit in there with a hera arms CQR Stock(that i had to Waste alot of time to get it fitted correcly on there).

tdotsofter · March 8th, 2019, 18:45

Stick with the GHK.

QKLee11 · March 15th, 2019, 23:43

KWA LM 4 is a good way to go, just got one...outstanding, have a WE 416 for 7 years now, still works, but the MAGS sucks!

BobbyDangerous · April 10th, 2019, 21:37

it kicks a lot with the vfc vmags. G&P Pmags work as well.

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December 18th, 2018, 17:03	#1
BobbyDangerous Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oshawa	Back in the Gas Game So I own a GHK M4 but I want a 416. I’m looking at the WE 416 and the Umarex VFC Gen 2. I’ve had experience with WE and it’s been awe full with consistency. Not sure how they are now but my previous experience was frustrating. Anyone have any experience with any of these? Thanks.. __________________ -Dangerous- BA Level 3 Certified

December 18th, 2018, 17:18	#2
leth1337 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: York Region, Ontario	GHK > WE don't go back. NEVER GO BACK! __________________ WHISKEY-13

December 18th, 2018, 18:27	#3
BobbyDangerous Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oshawa	GHk doesn’t make a 416 __________________ -Dangerous- BA Level 3 Certified

December 22nd, 2018, 02:58	#4
Full-Auto-Seer Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario	I have no idea firsthand, but I've seen people saying VFC's HK416A5 is quite nice. __________________ I own more GBB guns than AEGs, because I'm a stubborn bastard who hates doing things the easy way.

December 22nd, 2018, 12:10	#5
manchovie Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto	If you're baller you can get the TM MWS and buy the 416 kit for it. Best system out there in my opinion. Alternatively I'd say get the WE and use the FG airsoft flow restrictors to tune your fps rather than an NPAS. All my WE guns shot very well unless they had an NPAS installed (though sometimes it works out). Run it stock and take it easy on the bolt release (replace with stock parts as necessary) and it should be good to you for a long time. Mine shot crazy far with a modify hop bucking. __________________ experienced toronto gun doctor, hundreds of guns serviced manchovie gun doc thread! my b/s rating

December 27th, 2018, 18:25	#7
BobbyDangerous Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oshawa	I ended up getting a VFC 416D from trigger. G&P WA PMags work with it. I haven’t gone in a tuned anything yet but it’s shooting around 1.33joules. My GHK is a lot hotter stock. __________________ -Dangerous- BA Level 3 Certified

March 8th, 2019, 14:27	#8
Yannix Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Longueuil, QC	You should've looked up the KWA hk416 (basicly the LM4 reskined) really nice piece and solid internals. fitted a simple TNT kit in there with a hera arms CQR Stock(that i had to Waste alot of time to get it fitted correcly on there).

March 8th, 2019, 18:45	#9
tdotsofter Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Toronto,Etobicoke	Stick with the GHK.

March 15th, 2019, 23:43	#10
QKLee11 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto	KWA LM 4 is a good way to go, just got one...outstanding, have a WE 416 for 7 years now, still works, but the MAGS sucks!

April 10th, 2019, 21:37	#11
BobbyDangerous Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oshawa	it kicks a lot with the vfc vmags. G&P Pmags work as well. __________________ -Dangerous- BA Level 3 Certified

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