TM M4 new type

^Hyperion^ · April 8th, 2006, 22:43

what about it ?

I know its kinda new so I havent see any review of it.
Finally , no more barrel wobble and the same amazing upgradeability !!

anyone has it or tried it ?

Rumpel Felt · April 8th, 2006, 23:10

It looks like the same lame offering TM usually puts out at a horrible price as usual. Why in the hell would you want a gun that has to be upgraded to shit and cost you twice as much as buying the perfectly good G&P full metal and upfraded M4 out of the box for only ~$150 more.

Why do people waste money on TM.....WHY?!?!

Moderate · April 8th, 2006, 23:19

Where's the fun in that?

attack-beaver · April 8th, 2006, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt

It looks like the same lame offering TM usually puts out at a horrible price as usual. Why in the hell would you want a gun that has to be upgraded to shit and cost you twice as much as buying the perfectly good G&P full metal and upfraded M4 out of the box for only ~$150 more.

Why do people waste money on TM.....WHY?!?!

the reason people buy TM is cause they have more to pick from compared to G&P and ICS most companys other then CA and TM make just MP5's and M4/16 series.

SC_SY · April 9th, 2006, 00:26

They're also the best in terms of durability (when kept stock), which is good for beginners and people who won't/can't upgrade.

stokes · April 9th, 2006, 00:37

This might become another debate on why people shouldnt pick TMs over others. But heres my opinion... please do not flame me.

Almost all the guns that are widely used in airsoft which are produced by TM has been made/reproduced by companies such as G&P, ICS, CA, G&G, HFC, KJW etc. So the variety is there it just depends on whether you want plastic or metal.

In terms of reliability... the companies aforementioned has increased the quality in terms of reliability in the past couple years, while still offering a greater "bang for your buck" of sorts in terms of what they offer. They could POSSIBLY even rival that of TMs so called reliability.

But having handled the TMs new m4a1, its quite a solid piece no barrel wobble from what I saw and heavy in weight. Although it still has the gastly plastic body... and when you run yours hands down that thing it just doesnt beat the feel of an ICS, G&P or CA.

I would like to also add that the one piece barrel that TM uses in my opinion is alot more solid than many other stock barrels that other companies use. It feels and looks thicker more sturdier.

BUT! I will never buy a TM ever!

Trader rating · April 9th, 2006, 11:36

no matter how you do an armalite, without a metal body, there will always be barrel wobble. you can do all kinds of thing to take it away, fasteners, extensions, nitro rails, but nothing will work like a metal body.

Kos-Mos · April 9th, 2006, 11:55

Well..

the C7A2 (M16A3) we are using here in the army do have some barrel wobble...(well not all of them, but mostly the ones that have fired about 10 clips)

The older ones for training are awfull.... like 1/8 inch at the tip in every direction........

Knowing that these have some wobble, it is not surprising that the airsoft counterpart do have some too...

Rumpel Felt · April 9th, 2006, 17:09

I am willing to bet my money (and I have already) that most other companies at least CA for sure have matched TM in reliability and totally kicked there ass in everything else and who knows, probably reliablity too. Everything on a non-TM gun is usually made of something better or equal, usually comes with many upgrades and usually has more accesories. TM's non-upgraded, bare minimum included and lame plastic body does not cut it at all for me especially when it costs nearly as much as a gun you get literally over double the value for. TM is a bloody rip to me. Not only that but they are bloody toyish as well.

Hyperion, buy a G&P/CA/ICS and make the smart decision.

^Hyperion^ · April 9th, 2006, 19:10

anyone else think that way ?

thanks for infos Rumpel

Groombug · April 9th, 2006, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt

I am willing to bet my money (and I have already) that most other companies at least CA for sure have matched TM in reliability and totally kicked there ass in everything else and who knows, probably reliablity too. Everything on a non-TM gun is usually made of something better or equal, usually comes with many upgrades and usually has more accesories. TM's non-upgraded, bare minimum included and lame plastic body does not cut it at all for me especially when it costs nearly as much as a gun you get literally over double the value for. TM is a bloody rip to me. Not only that but they are bloody toyish as well.

Hyperion, buy a G&P/CA/ICS and make the smart decision.

You've been note-sharing with that Russianboy, haven't you?

A simple comparison between the frequency of CA lemons and TM lemons fresh from the box will tell you which company has better QC and reliability.

Personally, I'd rather buy something made with quality standards in Japan than something made in a backwoods Hong Kong factory at the lowest bidder.

Rumpel Felt · April 9th, 2006, 20:00

I haven't heard of ANY CA's going down out of the box lately. Back in the day yes, but that was then, before I bought, this is now, where CA guns kick ass and always do.

CA actually does listen to their customers. It was evident when their products started to improve and it is on going. (the lube issue for example, I found my new CA to have plenty enough lube) That plus the obvious value over TM.

I feel I must speak out everytime this arguement comes up as guide new people into a (what a sure as hell think) smarter purchase.

TM ain't perfect either. And to me, making a realistic looking gun plastic automaticlly makes it loose 75% of it's effect on me. And say CA wasn't as good as it is, I'd rather have a broken CA than a working TM any day. It'll still cost me less.

*ATF*Aurora · April 9th, 2006, 20:14

Careful this opinion isn't for the faint of heart.

No more reason to buy a TM unless they are the only maker of your model.

Rumpel Felt · April 9th, 2006, 20:18

Exactly.

Freedom Fighter · April 9th, 2006, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by *ATF*Aurora

No more reason to buy a TM unless they are the only maker of your model.

Well since you newbies know it all then I guess there is no reason to post anymore questions.

For me, it's KJW M9's and money spent upgrading TM AK's ... but what do I know?

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April 8th, 2006, 22:43	#1
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	TM M4 new type what about it ? I know its kinda new so I havent see any review of it. Finally , no more barrel wobble and the same amazing upgradeability !! anyone has it or tried it ? __________________

April 9th, 2006, 11:55	#8
Kos-Mos Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lévis (QC)	This might slip away... but Well.. the C7A2 (M16A3) we are using here in the army do have some barrel wobble...(well not all of them, but mostly the ones that have fired about 10 clips) The older ones for training are awfull.... like 1/8 inch at the tip in every direction........ Knowing that these have some wobble, it is not surprising that the airsoft counterpart do have some too...

April 9th, 2006, 19:10	#10
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	anyone else think that way ? thanks for infos Rumpel __________________

April 8th, 2006, 23:10	#2
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	It looks like the same lame offering TM usually puts out at a horrible price as usual. Why in the hell would you want a gun that has to be upgraded to shit and cost you twice as much as buying the perfectly good G&P full metal and upfraded M4 out of the box for only ~$150 more. Why do people waste money on TM.....WHY?!?!

April 8th, 2006, 23:19	#3
Moderate Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Under a Bridge	Where's the fun in that?

April 9th, 2006, 00:26	#5
SC_SY Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario	They're also the best in terms of durability (when kept stock), which is good for beginners and people who won't/can't upgrade.

April 9th, 2006, 00:37	#6
stokes Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto	This might become another debate on why people shouldnt pick TMs over others. But heres my opinion... please do not flame me. Almost all the guns that are widely used in airsoft which are produced by TM has been made/reproduced by companies such as G&P, ICS, CA, G&G, HFC, KJW etc. So the variety is there it just depends on whether you want plastic or metal. In terms of reliability... the companies aforementioned has increased the quality in terms of reliability in the past couple years, while still offering a greater "bang for your buck" of sorts in terms of what they offer. They could POSSIBLY even rival that of TMs so called reliability. But having handled the TMs new m4a1, its quite a solid piece no barrel wobble from what I saw and heavy in weight. Although it still has the gastly plastic body... and when you run yours hands down that thing it just doesnt beat the feel of an ICS, G&P or CA. I would like to also add that the one piece barrel that TM uses in my opinion is alot more solid than many other stock barrels that other companies use. It feels and looks thicker more sturdier. BUT! I will never buy a TM ever!

April 9th, 2006, 11:36	#7
Droc Guest Trader rating	no matter how you do an armalite, without a metal body, there will always be barrel wobble. you can do all kinds of thing to take it away, fasteners, extensions, nitro rails, but nothing will work like a metal body.

April 9th, 2006, 17:09	#9
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	I am willing to bet my money (and I have already) that most other companies at least CA for sure have matched TM in reliability and totally kicked there ass in everything else and who knows, probably reliablity too. Everything on a non-TM gun is usually made of something better or equal, usually comes with many upgrades and usually has more accesories. TM's non-upgraded, bare minimum included and lame plastic body does not cut it at all for me especially when it costs nearly as much as a gun you get literally over double the value for. TM is a bloody rip to me. Not only that but they are bloody toyish as well. Hyperion, buy a G&P/CA/ICS and make the smart decision.

April 9th, 2006, 20:00	#12
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	I haven't heard of ANY CA's going down out of the box lately. Back in the day yes, but that was then, before I bought, this is now, where CA guns kick ass and always do. CA actually does listen to their customers. It was evident when their products started to improve and it is on going. (the lube issue for example, I found my new CA to have plenty enough lube) That plus the obvious value over TM. I feel I must speak out everytime this arguement comes up as guide new people into a (what a sure as hell think) smarter purchase. TM ain't perfect either. And to me, making a realistic looking gun plastic automaticlly makes it loose 75% of it's effect on me. And say CA wasn't as good as it is, I'd rather have a broken CA than a working TM any day. It'll still cost me less.

April 9th, 2006, 20:14	#13
ATFAurora Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ville de Québec, Québec, Canada.	Careful this opinion isn't for the faint of heart. No more reason to buy a TM unless they are the only maker of your model.

April 9th, 2006, 20:18	#14
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	Exactly.

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