(Noob) Mid-Cap or Hi-Cap?

ShadowQc · April 22nd, 2006, 12:42

Hi guys,
i'm pretty new to airsoft and i would like to know witch would be better for me, the G&P AK-47 150 Rounds Mid-Cap or the TM AK-47 600 Rounds Hi-Cap?
Because i've seen people saying wouding a hi-cap is annoying and un-realistic, and also i think 150 rounds is enough for me.

Thanks.

PS: I've searched in the forum, no answer.

The Saint · April 22nd, 2006, 12:49

150 rounds isn't a lot, especially for someone just starting out. Though I suppose it won't be a bad thing to learn to conserve rather from the beginning. However, you'll either be carrying a bag of BBs with you AND a loader (you can't really load lo and midcaps without a tool), or going to the safe area a lot. If you want midcaps, I'd get at least two, more likely 3 or more. Hicaps are popular because they're really economical.

I'm not sure a lot of realcap users would even carry only 150 rounds, not unless they were reenacting some of the dark periods of M16's history...

SHaKaL · April 22nd, 2006, 13:09

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Originally Posted by ShadowQc

PS: I've searched in the forum, no answer.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=26763

SockMonkey · April 22nd, 2006, 14:01

I would run the Mid personaly but thats just because i dont like highcaps. For your self if you think you are likely going to be heavy on the trigger go with the highcap. I would see if you can pick up a box of star mags.

major kartel · April 22nd, 2006, 14:09

shadow i think u kind of answer ur own question . but i am also new to this a did some research and i chose mid cap ,the reasons are ..

1 hate the noise and winding of high caps
2 better then low cap u have more firepower
3 it those teach u not to spray the field (i am not saying that all high cap users are)
4 il ove reloading my gun because of the feel of it an the realistic part

my two cents ! :smack:

Trader rating · April 22nd, 2006, 17:58

budget wise, a hicap is always a good way to start. then go lows

Rumpel Felt · April 22nd, 2006, 19:28

You are far closer to paintball with a hicap........you rattle, you wind, you have a massivly unrealistic capacity (not that all airsoft mags don't), you rrely on a far more complex and sloppy system. Basicly, to me, you might as well fold your ***** in half if you're using hicaps.

Get in on a pre-order and save oodles on midcaps.

Dozer_01 · April 22nd, 2006, 19:32

You would probably be happy with a highcap. It will save you alot of money.

And incase you were wondering....

Any AR highcap made by CA is miles above TM. From experience, the TM highcap has a very weak spring and thus people complain about misfeeding. The CA spring is quite heavy and i have yet to misfeed even with their highcaps... though maybe my sexy new hopup has something to do with that...

Trader rating · April 22nd, 2006, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt

You are far closer to paintball with a hicap........you rattle, you wind, you have a massivly unrealistic capacity (not that all airsoft mags don't), you rrely on a far more complex and sloppy system. Basicly, to me, you might as well fold your ***** in half if you're using hicaps.

Get in on a pre-order and save oodles on midcaps.

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Originally Posted by Droc

Im going to quote myself from a thread awhile back

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Originally Posted by Droc

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Originally Posted by W.K.Shuridys

Last time I checked, realism was the hallmark of airsoft.

No, looking real is the hallmark of airsoft. Far as Im concerned, there is nothing real about having 3000 rounds vs 300 rounds when your shots dont make it past 100 feet.
Real to look at, sure
real to play with no

Person 1: "dude, check out my urber realistic AEG. its 1:1 scale and full metal with USMC markings."

Person 2: "Sweet, shoot it"

Persons 1 & 2: "Oh, thats a shame, the BB wizzes out 170 feet like a drunken bird, sent off course by the slightest breath of air and stoped dead by a leaf."

Person 1: "atleast it looks real"

lowcap mags may be enhance realism in CQB enviorments, but in the bush, the dynamics of shooting a light weight BB at low velocity simply suck.
Looking like a real solider may be nice and all, but when you step out into a field and see your enemy 250 feet away, and neither of you can engage eachother...there is nothing real about it. In that case, even lazer games are more real since their trajectories are flat and their ranges can be far.
Shitty when you can toss a baseball further then your gun can shoot.

You get hardcore realism players who are dead set on real loadouts because it adds to the realism, yet they are so quick to dismiss the fact that the performance of their guns is no more real then the kids running around their backyards with paintball/softair ,elastic bands, or supersoakers. Sometimes a better balance in the attitudes needs to be reached. If your gonna toss away one aspect of realism, you gotta relax on the other.

understandably its a saftey issue.
saying that, I use star mags in my AR

Thought I stick to my claim that 1bb does not = 1 bullet, thus 30 round lowcaps are infact not realistic.
But whatever floats your boat. Its all about having fun in your own way.
(W.K.Shuridys, not directed to you, just a place to put my rant)

either way, I got totally offtopic

If you want to simulate the loadout, then lowcaps are for you.
But lowcaps DO NOT make someone a better player, just a different player.

"OMFG he beat me because he had more ammo them me" is just a piss poor excuse. If you cant beat someone simply because they can lay down more firepower then you can, you really need to brush up on your skills.

enemy at 180 feet. Medium wind from the side.
Real steel, Bang, enemy eliminated
hicap, unload lots, enemy eliminated
lowcap...oh, while you were being a batter player, you got shot.

realism doesnt mean you spot your enemy, cant engage and have to go CQB on his ass. Realism would be able to engage your enemy regardless of wind or leaves.

Not every hicap user is a sprayer. I know guys who use hicaps and you wouldnt know. Just cause someone has a hicap doesnt cut their IQ in half.
If you think a hicap instantly turns someone into a paintballer, pull out your lowcap and put in a hicap. Did you get stupid? did you forget your tatics? No, its bullshat. You can play your way with or without lowcaps.

Real loadout
vs
Real combat

its preferance. All this "skill" sounds like bad excuses. If you want to force yourself to play a specific way, thats fine. in the end its all personal preferance.

but it cuts a line between players. hicap users are newbs and lowcap users are elite. Over what? the excuse that one side plays like paintballers? weak.

you shouldnt be playing with your ***** at a game dude.

BC_K · April 22nd, 2006, 19:57

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Originally Posted by ShadowQc

Because i've seen people saying wouding a hi-cap is annoying and un-realistic, and also i think 150 rounds is enough for me.

You'd be suprised how fast 150rds go in a firefight or ambush.

I'd suggest trying out a variety of magazines at a game to find what suites you best.

Red Ghost · April 22nd, 2006, 20:34

I have 4 of the STAR 30 rounders for my SR-16. I find that i don't burn theough those 30 rounds very quick, even when using bursts of automatic fire. However i do prefer the TM standards purely because of the construction quality and reliability.

I do have 4 of the G&P 110 round VN style mags, but mine had feeding issues taht are just finally working out, so I tend to stay with my TM standards.

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April 22nd, 2006, 12:42	#1
ShadowQc Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Qc	(Noob) Mid-Cap or Hi-Cap? Hi guys, i'm pretty new to airsoft and i would like to know witch would be better for me, the G&P AK-47 150 Rounds Mid-Cap or the TM AK-47 600 Rounds Hi-Cap? Because i've seen people saying wouding a hi-cap is annoying and un-realistic, and also i think 150 rounds is enough for me. Thanks. PS: I've searched in the forum, no answer.

April 22nd, 2006, 12:49	#2
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	150 rounds isn't a lot, especially for someone just starting out. Though I suppose it won't be a bad thing to learn to conserve rather from the beginning. However, you'll either be carrying a bag of BBs with you AND a loader (you can't really load lo and midcaps without a tool), or going to the safe area a lot. If you want midcaps, I'd get at least two, more likely 3 or more. Hicaps are popular because they're really economical. I'm not sure a lot of realcap users would even carry only 150 rounds, not unless they were reenacting some of the dark periods of M16's history... __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

April 22nd, 2006, 14:01	#4
SockMonkey Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Vancouver	I would run the Mid personaly but thats just because i dont like highcaps. For your self if you think you are likely going to be heavy on the trigger go with the highcap. I would see if you can pick up a box of star mags. __________________ You know, there's like a butt-load of gangs at this school. This one gang kept wanting me to join because I'm pretty good with a bo staff.

April 22nd, 2006, 14:09	#5
major kartel Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: chilliwack B.C BABY	shadow i think u kind of answer ur own question . but i am also new to this a did some research and i chose mid cap ,the reasons are .. 1 hate the noise and winding of high caps 2 better then low cap u have more firepower 3 it those teach u not to spray the field (i am not saying that all high cap users are) 4 il ove reloading my gun because of the feel of it an the realistic part my two cents ! :smack: __________________ :infantry: I am not retrieving I am advancing in the opposite direction ! :rocket:

April 22nd, 2006, 17:58	#6
Droc Guest Trader rating	budget wise, a hicap is always a good way to start. then go lows

April 22nd, 2006, 19:28	#7
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	You are far closer to paintball with a hicap........you rattle, you wind, you have a massivly unrealistic capacity (not that all airsoft mags don't), you rrely on a far more complex and sloppy system. Basicly, to me, you might as well fold your ***** in half if you're using hicaps. Get in on a pre-order and save oodles on midcaps.

April 22nd, 2006, 19:32	#8
Dozer_01 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ontario	You would probably be happy with a highcap. It will save you alot of money. And incase you were wondering.... Any AR highcap made by CA is miles above TM. From experience, the TM highcap has a very weak spring and thus people complain about misfeeding. The CA spring is quite heavy and i have yet to misfeed even with their highcaps... though maybe my sexy new hopup has something to do with that... __________________ LLTP

April 22nd, 2006, 20:34	#11
Red Ghost Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Ambush You're About To Enter	I have 4 of the STAR 30 rounders for my SR-16. I find that i don't burn theough those 30 rounds very quick, even when using bursts of automatic fire. However i do prefer the TM standards purely because of the construction quality and reliability. I do have 4 of the G&P 110 round VN style mags, but mine had feeding issues taht are just finally working out, so I tend to stay with my TM standards. __________________ TM SR-16 Stock, And A Shitload Of Mags Apparently, a hand grenade does not belong in my toolbox. Nor does a hand grenade with the pin pulled belong in someone else's toolbox. When In Doubt, Empty A Magazine.

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