M15A4 SPC and CQB (Questions about field use)

shomie911 · July 2nd, 2006, 17:04

I'm planning on purchasing one of these two AEG's in a few days and have a few questions that I'm sure someone can answer. First off the field that I play at is fairly small, the maximum distance I am going to be engaging someone is about 40 meters or around 120 feet away. I don't really care about the price I'm just concerned about its accuracy at 120 feet and its overall performance and reliability. I need to know which rifle would be a better choice. I've read multiple reviews but still don't have anything concrete to stand on, I'm hoping you can put my questions to rest. Thanks in advance. (P.S. This will be my first high end AEG in case that may affect your answer.)

The Saint · July 2nd, 2006, 17:26

Whichever one has the longer barrel. If they have the same length of barrel, then either one is fine. All differences between different models of CA15A4s are external, they're ALL M15A4. And 120ft should be near the last quarter of a CA's effectiveness envelop.

shomie911 · July 2nd, 2006, 17:30

I've heard in multiple reviews that the CQB has better hop up than the SPC (supposedly newer version of the SPC hop up). Does anyone know if this is true? And which gun would you guys get based on looks alone?

freeman · July 2nd, 2006, 18:08

I will definitely get CQBR based on looks alone.Both of them should have very similar performance.CA CQBR shoots 330-350 out of the box,and you should get pretty decent range with it.
Oh,by the way.You can fit a 9.6v 3300mAh(Nicd) battery inside the crance stock of a CA CQBR.This will give you super high rate of fire. :duke:

shomie911 · July 2nd, 2006, 18:17

Wouldn't it be a better idea just to get a 8.4v as this is going to be my primary for as long as I can get it to last.

ex · July 2nd, 2006, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by shomie911

Wouldn't it be a better idea just to get a 8.4v as this is going to be my primary for as long as I can get it to last.

That would depend on you. The higher the Voltage the higher rate of fire you can achieve. Granted the diference between 8.4V and 9.6V is slight the 9.6V is the better choice IMHO. Also the higher the MAH rating the longer you can play. Personally I have a 9.6V 3300 Mah in my crane stock and it has lasted me 3 games on one charge (granted I dont spray and pray). Good luck.

The Saint · July 2nd, 2006, 18:45

You don't need or want higher rate of fire from both above average voltage and mah. If you use a 3600mah at 8.4v, you'll still get a very high rate of fire and long battery life. You want a solid ROF, not an astronomical ROF. No sense in wearing your gun down that fast.

shomie911 · July 2nd, 2006, 18:51

I've never seen a 8.4v 3000mah crane stock battery, can you point me in the direction of where their sold?

EDIT: Also which would you consider better they are identically priced, a 8.4v 1700mah crane stock battery or a 9.6v 2200mah crane stock battery. Or the 8.4v 3000mah one.

firemachine69 · July 2nd, 2006, 20:25

Ni-Cd or Ni-Mh?

Big difference.

shomie911 · July 2nd, 2006, 22:31

Sorry I meant NiMh, but I already found one at onlybatterypacks.com. So you think the CQB would be fairly good for small woodland use. Sorry for the constant questions it's just a big purchase and I want to be absolutely sure of what I'm getting.

freeman · July 3rd, 2006, 04:19

It is NICD. 3300mAH. get the 9.6v version if you plan to upgrade the gun later,stiffer spring would slow down the rof a little bit anyways,so the rof won't be that high after upgrade.

shomie911 · July 3rd, 2006, 11:22

If at all possible I want to keep the ROF near 700 to 800 and at the very most 900. I don't like guns that empty a mag in little over a second. Any one know what I'd have to use to get a ROF of about 700-900? Also would THIS battery fit in the crane stock.
Here's a pic of it:

If that battery is not compatible then can you suggest another 8.4v battery around the 1700mah mark.

freeman · July 3rd, 2006, 19:42

the 8.4v 1700mah you posted above should be able to fit in the crane stock.

Mantelope · July 3rd, 2006, 23:12

Couple of points... there is no 3000mAh NiCad cell that is used in airsoft.

The pictures you posted, shomie, are of a battery assembled with A cells. The highest capacity I've seen in that size is 2700mAh NiMH, or 1900mAh NiCad. The other two popular cell sizes are SubC cells, which are used in "large" battery packs, and 2/3A as used in "mini" packs. 2/3A cells are max 600mAh NiCad, or 1400mAh NiMH, and SubC cells are max 2400mAh Nicad, and 4300mAh NiMH.

Personally I recommend www.cheapbatterypacks.com for batteries, they've given me fantastic service and the prices are excellent.

If you feel like reading more about batteries, check out www.batteryuniversity.com

shomie911 · July 4th, 2006, 11:43

What kind of cells are in a crane stock battery?

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July 2nd, 2006, 17:04	#1
shomie911 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	M15A4 SPC and CQB (Questions about field use) I'm planning on purchasing one of these two AEG's in a few days and have a few questions that I'm sure someone can answer. First off the field that I play at is fairly small, the maximum distance I am going to be engaging someone is about 40 meters or around 120 feet away. I don't really care about the price I'm just concerned about its accuracy at 120 feet and its overall performance and reliability. I need to know which rifle would be a better choice. I've read multiple reviews but still don't have anything concrete to stand on, I'm hoping you can put my questions to rest. Thanks in advance. (P.S. This will be my first high end AEG in case that may affect your answer.) __________________ *"I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography."* Paul Rodriguez

July 2nd, 2006, 17:26	#2
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	Whichever one has the longer barrel. If they have the same length of barrel, then either one is fine. All differences between different models of CA15A4s are external, they're ALL M15A4. And 120ft should be near the last quarter of a CA's effectiveness envelop. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

July 2nd, 2006, 17:30	#3
shomie911 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	I've heard in multiple reviews that the CQB has better hop up than the SPC (supposedly newer version of the SPC hop up). Does anyone know if this is true? And which gun would you guys get based on looks alone? __________________ *"I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography."* Paul Rodriguez

July 2nd, 2006, 18:08	#4
freeman Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver	I will definitely get CQBR based on looks alone.Both of them should have very similar performance.CA CQBR shoots 330-350 out of the box,and you should get pretty decent range with it. Oh,by the way.You can fit a 9.6v 3300mAh(Nicd) battery inside the crance stock of a CA CQBR.This will give you super high rate of fire. :duke: __________________

July 2nd, 2006, 18:17	#5
shomie911 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	Wouldn't it be a better idea just to get a 8.4v as this is going to be my primary for as long as I can get it to last. __________________ *"I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography."* Paul Rodriguez

July 2nd, 2006, 18:45	#7
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	You don't need or want higher rate of fire from both above average voltage and mah. If you use a 3600mah at 8.4v, you'll still get a very high rate of fire and long battery life. You want a solid ROF, not an astronomical ROF. No sense in wearing your gun down that fast. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

July 2nd, 2006, 18:51	#8
shomie911 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	I've never seen a 8.4v 3000mah crane stock battery, can you point me in the direction of where their sold? EDIT: Also which would you consider better they are identically priced, a 8.4v 1700mah crane stock battery or a 9.6v 2200mah crane stock battery. Or the 8.4v 3000mah one. __________________ *"I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography."* Paul Rodriguez

July 2nd, 2006, 22:31	#10
shomie911 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	Sorry I meant NiMh, but I already found one at onlybatterypacks.com. So you think the CQB would be fairly good for small woodland use. Sorry for the constant questions it's just a big purchase and I want to be absolutely sure of what I'm getting. __________________ *"I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography."* Paul Rodriguez

July 3rd, 2006, 04:19	#11
freeman Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver	It is NICD. 3300mAH. get the 9.6v version if you plan to upgrade the gun later,stiffer spring would slow down the rof a little bit anyways,so the rof won't be that high after upgrade. __________________

July 3rd, 2006, 11:22	#12
shomie911 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	If at all possible I want to keep the ROF near 700 to 800 and at the very most 900. I don't like guns that empty a mag in little over a second. Any one know what I'd have to use to get a ROF of about 700-900? Also would THIS battery fit in the crane stock. Here's a pic of it: If that battery is not compatible then can you suggest another 8.4v battery around the 1700mah mark. __________________ *"I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography."* Paul Rodriguez

July 3rd, 2006, 19:42	#13
freeman Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver	the 8.4v 1700mah you posted above should be able to fit in the crane stock. __________________

July 3rd, 2006, 23:12	#14
Mantelope Scotty aka harleyb Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Couple of points... there is no 3000mAh NiCad cell that is used in airsoft. The pictures you posted, shomie, are of a battery assembled with A cells. The highest capacity I've seen in that size is 2700mAh NiMH, or 1900mAh NiCad. The other two popular cell sizes are SubC cells, which are used in "large" battery packs, and 2/3A as used in "mini" packs. 2/3A cells are max 600mAh NiCad, or 1400mAh NiMH, and SubC cells are max 2400mAh Nicad, and 4300mAh NiMH. Personally I recommend www.cheapbatterypacks.com for batteries, they've given me fantastic service and the prices are excellent. If you feel like reading more about batteries, check out www.batteryuniversity.com

July 4th, 2006, 11:43	#15
shomie911 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	What kind of cells are in a crane stock battery? __________________ *"I think war might be God's way of teaching us geography."* Paul Rodriguez

M15A4 SPC and CQB (Questions about field use)

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