TacGear M84 Kit (56K = mucho death)

Darklen · October 25th, 2006, 01:30

A few months back, I'd purchased a MultiCam helmet cover from TacGear of Germany via Ebay. While the material wasn't real Crye, it was quite well made and matched my Cyre Combat set well enough, I decided to save my pennies and get a Danish, M84, loadout from them.

I managed to get pretty much everything I wanted via Ebay once again as they do not list M84 on their site for uniforms, but do for some of the gear, but also managed to save a bit in the process. there is still a bit more I'd like to get from TacGear to complete the loadout, provided I can get it in M84.

My total loadout includes:

Combat Smock
Combat Pants
Chest Rig Specialist
Helmet Cover
Boonie Hat
Gaiters
Map Case
Knife Sheath

All this was about $560 cdn shipped, with shipping being about $60.

While none of the items are actual issue, or made of issue fabric, they match up pretty well when compared to photos. I have an issue combat shirt coming and will post side by side pics once it arrives. All the fabric is a fairly heavy 65% Poly/35% Cotton ripstop material. General manufacture is quite nice, though double stitching is not as heavily used as I would have liked. All stress points are bar tacked and there is a fair bit of double stitching where needed. I did not find any rolled seams or overly crooked stitching. All buttons are the slotted variety, which hold up a lot better than the straight sew on type.

Combat Smock - size XL(56/58)

Very reminisent of the Canadian Dennison Smock/ British Para Smock. There are fifteen pockets in total, 4 inside, 11 outside, with a zippered pass through next to the main zipper at breast height. There are two outer buttoned breast pockets with a zippered pocket behind each. the outer pockets are bellowed and each has a "D" ring sewn on the inside to secure small items, ie, a flashlite. Each pocket has a 1" x 7" loop velcro tape sewn on for name tapes and there is a patch of loop velcro on the front flap for a rank badge. The front seals with a two way zipper and a velcro stom flap. There are four button thigh pockets, two on each side (the inner most two with a "D" ring inside), with a large three button pocket in the rear. There are two zippered breast pockets inside and two large pouches in the bottom rear that run from hip to hip, seperated in the middle. There is no flap to secure items in these pouches. There are two velcro sealed pockets on the sleeves, one each. the outsides of both pockets are covered in loop velcro and there is a small patch of velcro about each flap just the right size for a 1" x 2" Canadian flag patch. There is a elbow patch made of (I think) 1000 denier nylon in matching M84 and these have nice foam padding already installed. The pockets for the padding secures with velcro if you want to remove/replace the padding and the velcro is on the upper arm side so as not to get caught on things in the field.The underarm area has a handy pit zipper for ventilation. Cuffs close with a velcro tab. There is an elastic draw sting internally for the waist and externally for the bottom. Both adjust with cord locks. It also has a hood with a draw string/cordlock affair and a stiffening wire around the hood itself that can be shaped to keep out the weather or to make the wearers face more obscure.

Front

Rear

Front Side

Front Breast

Breast Pocket Detail

Side

Lower Back

Sleeve Detail

Underarm

Combat Pants - Size L9/95 (about 36 x 36)

Passing similarity to Canadian Pants. These come sized and do not feature waist adjustment. They have a button waist and one way fly. The two slash pockets in the front each feature a "D" ring sewn into the belt loop above them (attaching keys?). There is one seat pocket on the right and it seals with a hidden button flap. The seat itself is double layered. The thigh pockets are roomy without being bulky. They each close with two buttons and storm flap and the right hand pocket has a knife/accessory pocket inside of it. There are also two straps that go from the inside seam of the pockets to the outside seam through the middle of your legs. These are to sinch the leg material tighter if you're carrying a lod in the thigh pockets, helping them from slopping around. The knees feature the same padded nylon as the smock and are located in just the right spot. Kneeling is quite comfortable even though the padding is only about 3/16" thick. Padding is also removable. The bottom of the legs has a tie to blouse the cuff and a dust cuff that tucks into your boot. The dust cuff has an elastic shock cord on it and a cord lock. I think this would make it uncomfortable to wear, but I'll try it out and report back.

Pants Front

Pants Side

Pants Back

Thigh Pocket Detail

Chest Rig Specialist

This is a fairly nice piece of kit. I'm used to wearing an Arktis Sigma Assault vest, which weighs about 15 pounds empty. This rig is very light, 2.5 pounds empty. More 1000 denier nylon all around, good quality web straps, some mesh in the back. Hardware is YKK buckles in OD. All very comfortable to wear and is adjustable. Now I'm 6'6", 220# and this vest is adjusted to fit me comfortably snug and there isn't a lot of adjustment left for height, but there's still some for waist. the rig comprises of two panels, each with two mag pouches and a large pouch that fits a 1 quart canteen nicely. The mag pouches fit 3 armalite mags nicely, 4 MP5 mags fairly tight, 2 G36 mags fairly tight (as in they come out ok, but going in is a bit of a struggle) and should fit 2-3 AK mags, but I only had one to fit and the lid does close. Each panel has a zippered pocket in the front and breathable mesh in the back. there is an "accessory" flap (see pic) that velcros inside the panel and drops down to attach, sheaths, holsters and the like. There is a pistol mag pouch about the mag pouches on each side as well as a small pouch on the canteen pouch. The yoke (shoulder straps), have a few attachment pointsin the front and on the shoulders, with the back being a mesh panel with velcro for a small name tape, flag or blood patch and two glow in the dark cats eyes (included). There is no hydration pack with this unit, but one is shown on TacGear's website, though not in M84.

Rig Front

Rig Side

Rig Back

Panel Detail

Helmet Cover

A simple affair. Made of the same material as the pants & the smock. The cover is designed to fit most helmets via draw string. I used mine with a MICH replica I purchased from Ehobbies. The cover has two foliage straps sewn across the left and right sides of the crown and one sewn around the base. These are sewn in segments to make foliage loops. the one around the base has velcro in the front and back to attach a name tape and the cover has a spot for a team/blood patch and two glow in the dark cats eyes (included). I found the cover rolls under the helmet rim too much and rubs against my head. This is the same as the original MutliCam one as well. I recently wore the multicam one for a whole game and it dind't bother me, though is doest restrict airflow if you use a goggle fan.

Helmet Front

Helmet Back

Helmet Inside

Head to Cover clearence (as in none)

Boonie Hat

Similar to the helmet cover in construction. Has the same cats eyes, screened vents and a chin strap. There is no neck flap like the Canadian ones.

Boonie Front

Boonie Back

Gaiters

Same 1000 denier nylon, heavy duty ziper in the front. A hook to attach to your laces and a nylon strap with adjusters and QD buckle. Cordlock closure at the top.

Gaiters

Knife Sheath

Same nylon. Has a pouch up front for a stone or compass. Retention by means of a velcro strap around the handle. There's a mount included in the pouch to attch the sheath to the flaps on the chest rig and velcro loops on the back for belt or webbing.

Sheath Front

Sheath Back

Map Case

What can I say, it's a map case. About 9" x 11" unfolded. Velcros shut and has a zippered pouch for pens & markers.

A few shot of the Smock, Pants, Helmet cover and Chest Rig

Front

Side

Back

Over all, I'm fairly impressed by the design, construction and price for everything. While I'd like to see some more double stitching, the thread and stitch quality seem to be pretty good as is, certainly suitable for airsofters. Even though it's brown out here on the prairies, I'll wear it out to a few games just to try it out. I'll update as I use the kit, add to it and if there's any issues.

GraveTech · October 25th, 2006, 01:32

OMG that kit is sexy. Does it come in long/xlong sizing?

Darklen · October 25th, 2006, 01:38

You can contact TacGear and ask. Like I said, I'm 6'6" and the xl jacket fits nice and has room for an M65 liner if I wanted to sew buttons in it for secure it. The pants fit my flabby 36" waist and the pant cuffs drag on the floor, the dust cuffs end up getting walked on.

Graham · October 25th, 2006, 01:41

well now, you just had to one-up me didn't you

Lerch · October 25th, 2006, 03:07

Very nice, I've been thinking about getting those gaiters for awhile now, but they just never seem to appear when I have the money.

Darklen · October 25th, 2006, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham

well now, you just had to one-up me didn't you

Not like that's hard Graham. jk

GMTII · October 25th, 2006, 17:03

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Darklen · October 30th, 2006, 00:09

Ok, did the first modification. As you can see in the above pics, the extra webbing on the chest rig just hangs as there is no way to secure it. I was going to just tape it up with some gun tape, until I remembered my Camelbak Talon has an interesting method of dealing with the extra straps if you don't want to cut them or tape them up. I carefully cut the bartack that secures the folded ends of the webbing and sewed in 2" of velcro, facing opposite directions, so you can roll the excess webbing up and just wrap it to itself.

Lerch · October 30th, 2006, 00:23

Smart cookie...I should do that for my loose webbing.

Gryphon · October 30th, 2006, 01:17

Very nice kit! The price you paid isn't unreasonable, I estimate my expenditure on M84 has easily reached four figures now. I've got Tacgear's helmet cover, boonie, and document pouch (essentially a zippered binder and map pouch). Got two drop legs, an Arktis 1601, and the rest is issue kit. I posted a few pics here if you'd like to compare with another prairie M84 nut.

MMMiles! · October 30th, 2006, 14:21

Very very nice - really diggint the M84 and thanks for all the pictures anf information... I'm scouting out for my next set of camo and it's high on the list.

Sir Toby should be proud.

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October 25th, 2006, 01:30	#1
Darklen Administrator Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	TacGear M84 Kit (56K = mucho death) A few months back, I'd purchased a MultiCam helmet cover from TacGear of Germany via Ebay. While the material wasn't real Crye, it was quite well made and matched my Cyre Combat set well enough, I decided to save my pennies and get a Danish, M84, loadout from them. I managed to get pretty much everything I wanted via Ebay once again as they do not list M84 on their site for uniforms, but do for some of the gear, but also managed to save a bit in the process. there is still a bit more I'd like to get from TacGear to complete the loadout, provided I can get it in M84. My total loadout includes: Combat Smock Combat Pants Chest Rig Specialist Helmet Cover Boonie Hat Gaiters Map Case Knife Sheath All this was about $560 cdn shipped, with shipping being about $60. While none of the items are actual issue, or made of issue fabric, they match up pretty well when compared to photos. I have an issue combat shirt coming and will post side by side pics once it arrives. All the fabric is a fairly heavy 65% Poly/35% Cotton ripstop material. General manufacture is quite nice, though double stitching is not as heavily used as I would have liked. All stress points are bar tacked and there is a fair bit of double stitching where needed. I did not find any rolled seams or overly crooked stitching. All buttons are the slotted variety, which hold up a lot better than the straight sew on type. Combat Smock - size XL(56/58) Very reminisent of the Canadian Dennison Smock/ British Para Smock. There are fifteen pockets in total, 4 inside, 11 outside, with a zippered pass through next to the main zipper at breast height. There are two outer buttoned breast pockets with a zippered pocket behind each. the outer pockets are bellowed and each has a "D" ring sewn on the inside to secure small items, ie, a flashlite. Each pocket has a 1" x 7" loop velcro tape sewn on for name tapes and there is a patch of loop velcro on the front flap for a rank badge. The front seals with a two way zipper and a velcro stom flap. There are four button thigh pockets, two on each side (the inner most two with a "D" ring inside), with a large three button pocket in the rear. There are two zippered breast pockets inside and two large pouches in the bottom rear that run from hip to hip, seperated in the middle. There is no flap to secure items in these pouches. There are two velcro sealed pockets on the sleeves, one each. the outsides of both pockets are covered in loop velcro and there is a small patch of velcro about each flap just the right size for a 1" x 2" Canadian flag patch. There is a elbow patch made of (I think) 1000 denier nylon in matching M84 and these have nice foam padding already installed. The pockets for the padding secures with velcro if you want to remove/replace the padding and the velcro is on the upper arm side so as not to get caught on things in the field.The underarm area has a handy pit zipper for ventilation. Cuffs close with a velcro tab. There is an elastic draw sting internally for the waist and externally for the bottom. Both adjust with cord locks. It also has a hood with a draw string/cordlock affair and a stiffening wire around the hood itself that can be shaped to keep out the weather or to make the wearers face more obscure. Front Rear Front Side Front Breast Breast Pocket Detail Side Lower Back Sleeve Detail Underarm Combat Pants - Size L9/95 (about 36 x 36) Passing similarity to Canadian Pants. These come sized and do not feature waist adjustment. They have a button waist and one way fly. The two slash pockets in the front each feature a "D" ring sewn into the belt loop above them (attaching keys?). There is one seat pocket on the right and it seals with a hidden button flap. The seat itself is double layered. The thigh pockets are roomy without being bulky. They each close with two buttons and storm flap and the right hand pocket has a knife/accessory pocket inside of it. There are also two straps that go from the inside seam of the pockets to the outside seam through the middle of your legs. These are to sinch the leg material tighter if you're carrying a lod in the thigh pockets, helping them from slopping around. The knees feature the same padded nylon as the smock and are located in just the right spot. Kneeling is quite comfortable even though the padding is only about 3/16" thick. Padding is also removable. The bottom of the legs has a tie to blouse the cuff and a dust cuff that tucks into your boot. The dust cuff has an elastic shock cord on it and a cord lock. I think this would make it uncomfortable to wear, but I'll try it out and report back. Pants Front Pants Side Pants Back Thigh Pocket Detail Chest Rig Specialist This is a fairly nice piece of kit. I'm used to wearing an Arktis Sigma Assault vest, which weighs about 15 pounds empty. This rig is very light, 2.5 pounds empty. More 1000 denier nylon all around, good quality web straps, some mesh in the back. Hardware is YKK buckles in OD. All very comfortable to wear and is adjustable. Now I'm 6'6", 220# and this vest is adjusted to fit me comfortably snug and there isn't a lot of adjustment left for height, but there's still some for waist. the rig comprises of two panels, each with two mag pouches and a large pouch that fits a 1 quart canteen nicely. The mag pouches fit 3 armalite mags nicely, 4 MP5 mags fairly tight, 2 G36 mags fairly tight (as in they come out ok, but going in is a bit of a struggle) and should fit 2-3 AK mags, but I only had one to fit and the lid does close. Each panel has a zippered pocket in the front and breathable mesh in the back. there is an "accessory" flap (see pic) that velcros inside the panel and drops down to attach, sheaths, holsters and the like. There is a pistol mag pouch about the mag pouches on each side as well as a small pouch on the canteen pouch. The yoke (shoulder straps), have a few attachment pointsin the front and on the shoulders, with the back being a mesh panel with velcro for a small name tape, flag or blood patch and two glow in the dark cats eyes (included). There is no hydration pack with this unit, but one is shown on TacGear's website, though not in M84. Rig Front Rig Side Rig Back Panel Detail Helmet Cover A simple affair. Made of the same material as the pants & the smock. The cover is designed to fit most helmets via draw string. I used mine with a MICH replica I purchased from Ehobbies. The cover has two foliage straps sewn across the left and right sides of the crown and one sewn around the base. These are sewn in segments to make foliage loops. the one around the base has velcro in the front and back to attach a name tape and the cover has a spot for a team/blood patch and two glow in the dark cats eyes (included). I found the cover rolls under the helmet rim too much and rubs against my head. This is the same as the original MutliCam one as well. I recently wore the multicam one for a whole game and it dind't bother me, though is doest restrict airflow if you use a goggle fan. Helmet Front Helmet Back Helmet Inside Head to Cover clearence (as in none) Boonie Hat Similar to the helmet cover in construction. Has the same cats eyes, screened vents and a chin strap. There is no neck flap like the Canadian ones. Boonie Front Boonie Back Gaiters Same 1000 denier nylon, heavy duty ziper in the front. A hook to attach to your laces and a nylon strap with adjusters and QD buckle. Cordlock closure at the top. Gaiters Knife Sheath Same nylon. Has a pouch up front for a stone or compass. Retention by means of a velcro strap around the handle. There's a mount included in the pouch to attch the sheath to the flaps on the chest rig and velcro loops on the back for belt or webbing. Sheath Front Sheath Back Map Case What can I say, it's a map case. About 9" x 11" unfolded. Velcros shut and has a zippered pouch for pens & markers. A few shot of the Smock, Pants, Helmet cover and Chest Rig Front Side Back Over all, I'm fairly impressed by the design, construction and price for everything. While I'd like to see some more double stitching, the thread and stitch quality seem to be pretty good as is, certainly suitable for airsofters. Even though it's brown out here on the prairies, I'll wear it out to a few games just to try it out. I'll update as I use the kit, add to it and if there's any issues. __________________ *ASC Age Verifier for Red Deer & Area Alberta*

October 25th, 2006, 01:38	#3
Darklen Administrator Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	You can contact TacGear and ask. Like I said, I'm 6'6" and the xl jacket fits nice and has room for an M65 liner if I wanted to sew buttons in it for secure it. The pants fit my flabby 36" waist and the pant cuffs drag on the floor, the dust cuffs end up getting walked on. __________________ *ASC Age Verifier for Red Deer & Area Alberta*

October 25th, 2006, 01:41	#4
Graham Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alberta	well now, you just had to one-up me didn't you __________________ R.A.A.T *http://www.historicalairsoftalberta.ca/*

October 25th, 2006, 01:32	#2
GraveTech Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	OMG that kit is sexy. Does it come in long/xlong sizing?

October 25th, 2006, 03:07	#5
Lerch * AV Status REVOKED * Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	Very nice, I've been thinking about getting those gaiters for awhile now, but they just never seem to appear when I have the money. __________________

October 25th, 2006, 17:03	#7
GMTII WW2 Airsofter Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2004	1 __________________ I can't measure my sig so I got this stupid tag line instead. Last edited by GMTII; May 11th, 2012 at 16:37..

October 30th, 2006, 00:09	#8
Darklen Administrator Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	Ok, did the first modification. As you can see in the above pics, the extra webbing on the chest rig just hangs as there is no way to secure it. I was going to just tape it up with some gun tape, until I remembered my Camelbak Talon has an interesting method of dealing with the extra straps if you don't want to cut them or tape them up. I carefully cut the bartack that secures the folded ends of the webbing and sewed in 2" of velcro, facing opposite directions, so you can roll the excess webbing up and just wrap it to itself. __________________ *ASC Age Verifier for Red Deer & Area Alberta*

October 30th, 2006, 00:23	#9
Lerch * AV Status REVOKED * Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	Smart cookie...I should do that for my loose webbing. __________________

October 30th, 2006, 01:17	#10
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	Very nice kit! The price you paid isn't unreasonable, I estimate my expenditure on M84 has easily reached four figures now. I've got Tacgear's helmet cover, boonie, and document pouch (essentially a zippered binder and map pouch). Got two drop legs, an Arktis 1601, and the rest is issue kit. I posted a few pics here if you'd like to compare with another prairie M84 nut.

October 30th, 2006, 14:21	#11
MMMiles! Part man, part machine Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Very very nice - really diggint the M84 and thanks for all the pictures anf information... I'm scouting out for my next set of camo and it's high on the list. Sir Toby should be proud.

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