A damn close call...

[Viperfish]

Alright so for the week before Xmas i was living at a Buddy's place as he just got a PS3, and seeing as I'm the gamer he sits me in front of it and tells me to play (fucking 65inch high def TV and $16,000 surround sound setup).

Anyways, I come home Xmas eve you know to do the whole family thing and at some point i run down to the basement to grab something or w/e, when i get down there i find that several things arnt there anymore.

let me take the time to describe the stuff in my basement.

We have 2 newspaper boxes (sun and the national post) that my dad got from work, something about them being broken into and garbage, a "lot full" light up sign my dad got from work as well for the same reasons, and finally a traffic light that had fallen down just out front of the hospital my dad runs in an storm, he got it cus he asked the workers if he could have it, seeing as they were gonna throw it out anyways they said sure.

So now we got all this cool stuff strung up in our basement, actually looks really good. However i come down there to find all the fore-mentioned items were gone, so i asked what happened to them, i got the same reply from my dad my mom and my brother they all said "its a long story" then my brother said "mom got sick of them"

so i don't think of it much until Xmas when i make note that the traffic light looks like it had been riped down, so i ask my mom and she gives me the same story just saying "its a long story". So i push into the matter until she finally tells me what happened.

Heres the rundown.

My brother (18) had gone to a party the Saturday a week before Xmas, he says when the owner of the house passed out there were 13 ppl there, when my brother left there was 300 or so at this house party, the whole house was trashed, broken windows cabinets smashed holes in the walls, you know teenage destruction kinda shit, well my brother (who is a druggie BTW) when he left stole this guys 360 (his excuse was cus i took mine to my buddies place) and walked out. seems almost everyone saw him take it, so the next day (Sunday) in the morning 5 Toronto Police officers (3 uniformed 2 non) show up at our house with a search warrant to find the stolen 360, lucky for me they go right to the basement, where they find the 360.

However, turns out the Sargent was a fucking asshole and starts pointing out other illegal shit, including the paper boxes the sign and the traffic light saying they are stolen. so now both my brother and dad are getting charged (brother for theft and my dad for possession of stolen items). along the way they found some of my things in the basement they "didn't like" (according to my mother) things like my dummy hand grenade i got at some surplus store a long time ago and some old cap guns. idk what they took of mine but i got to wait till the end of the month when the court date happens.

heres how lucky i got, in the other room (they would have walked past it to get to the TV in the basement) there is a storage room, if they had gone in there they would have found afew cases, one of which says "Walther" in nice bold engraved writing which when you open it would have the cutout in the foam for a handgun. had my brother hidden the 360 or sold it and they were to have searched the whole house, they would have gone into my room and found something kinda like this...

4 air rifles (non airsoft) laying in the corner of my room on a rack, my wall hanger collection on the wall right across from my door (all airsoft guns, crappy but airsoft none the less) cases with my better stuff in it and right there on my bed was 2 of my handguns (airsoft) and one of my wall hangers which i was getting ready to put up, along with afew swords and the like and my collection of brass and firearm related collectibles

now let me stress i got to all this stuff legally, weather through surplus stores or on line, but all of it is legal.

but

we all know how airsoft is gray line and based off the attitude of this Sargent, if he Had seen that i would have been charged out the wazoo with god knows how many counts of "possession of a replica firearm" or some other bullshit charge.

the second i heard this happened i promptly ran to my room, ripped everything off the walls and relocated it to a buddy's place (air softer)


my god if they had just come into my room man, i don't even wanna think about how bad that would have been, lucky for me i wasn't home, if i was then when the cops showed up i would have been in my room and they would have come up to get me before they did there search which would have meant a cop walking into my room.

i sware I'm very pissed off about this, now I'm too worried about what my dumb ass brother will do to be able to keep my airsoft stuff at my house.

bullshit

i tell ya i hope he gets hit with something hard when that court thing comes around, my dad on the other hand is fighting the charges as he got all his stuff legally.

OK thats my story, happy new years everyone

/rantoff

[surebet]

tl;dr get a gun cabinet.

[Viperfish]

my good guns are in cases but my wall hangers are jsut that, hung on the wall.

had i known my brother would have done somthing that dumb i prolly would have locked them up out if sight out if mine

oh and an FYI my room is triple locked as well

[TokyoSeven]

best wishes to your family for getting everything sorted out, its never fun to have to deal with anything during the holiday season, as for your brother, I hope you dont mind me recommending but, kick him in the face for being silly.

[Ronan]

Holy Fuck is all i can say.

I know how stupid little brothers can be. Hopefully he learns his lesson...

[Shirley]

How did you get a traffic light?
If you bought it, rememeber where you got it from and record the store name down. Also with the cap guns.

When you go to trial, or if you have money for a lawyer bring your reciepts with you.

I don't get why the cops have to take your cap guns for? And also dummy hand grenades? It's in your property. Not like you will threat someone with it. You can say it was for display. How many fucking hunters have replica rifles on their walls? Even bullets!

Tell the judge this. Also speak to your surplus owner and get him to right a document that you got the hand grenade from there.
If I was in your position. I would've told my parents that's bullshit of what they took, other than a little 360.

[Rumpel Felt]

Had a similar inncident here.

A time my house was robbed the cops did a search through with my parents just to see what other damage there was. I was not at home at the time and no one was thinking so a cop goes right into my room, which at the time had a loaded with mag inserted G36 laying on the floor and a loaded with mag inserted Mac 11 on the table. Apparently the cop didn't even flinch and all that was said was "they are airsoft guns" and that was it. Didn't even pick them up to confirm.

It's shitty, but it's all luck with cops a lot of the time. They aren't robots. Most are humans and some are....just, dicks! Those would be the ones out on a power trip. Fortunatley I've found the vast majority of our police force to be very reasonable and understanding.

[Viperfish]

the traffic light my dad got from work, it came down in a bad storm and was bashed up pretty bad, the guys from the city said its cheaper for them to replace them then fix em so they gonna throw i out, so my dad asked if he could have it. it meant less work for the workers you know, not having to haul it around, so they gave it to him.

they didn't take the cap guns or the nade, but my mother told me the Sgt freaked out over it something about this not being "totally legal" but i have noticed there are things missing from the basement, like an old 1911 cap gun i painted up and had in a case (first "gun" mod)

I'm not sure if I'm even gonna bother going to court with them, not really worth me taking time off off just to go laugh at my brother

alot of cops are cool about this kinda thing but it seems the Sargent was a dick, prolly told he had to work on Xmas or something

[SINN]

blame your bro, not the cops.

[Scarecrow]

First, get a lawyer.

Second, don't post on the internet the list of things they DIDN'T find.

[Aquamarine]

Your brother is a fucking retard. Do society a favor and inject him with lead-acid from your cars battery.

[commandojim]

Your brother has commited criminal acts(according to your own story)
so first a good laywer is in order ,second treat you airsoft as
real firearms when it comes to storage(min.a lock box
better a gun locker) since by you own
statement he has preformed criminal acts ,has been charged
and is yet to go to trial. So he should not be able to obtain
your airsoft collection. C.Y.A.

[wildcard]

Originally Posted by Kohaku

alot of cops are cool about this kinda thing but it seems the Sargent was a dick, prolly told he had to work on Xmas or something

buddy the cop is not being a dick, going by your own story there i'm surprised he didn't confiscate all of them. the last thing a cop want to see when he or she is executing a warrant is a gun or something similar to a gun, you live in Scarborough with a brother who is a by your own admission a druggie and a thief, you should be thankfull that the cop did not confiscate or give you any additional charges.

Be smart, the way things are now you have to be smart about who you show your airsoft stuff to.

[Viperfish]

OK first off i want to nail home the point i was not charged with anything (yay me) and they did not see my stuff, its behind closed and locked doors.

everything i own is legal and was obtained legally

all of my good guns were in locked cases, my air rifles were on a locked gun rack and my wall hangers were also locked to there respective racks. and then finally my room is locked down in several different ways. I took every precaution with my stuff. which now that i think about it, would have been funny if the cops found it and wanted to take it, cus they would have had to call me home to unlock it for them lol

i agree 100% with what you guys say about my brother and i must admit its hard on me and my parents to have to deal with him. the Toronto police have my fully support in there case against him.

the reason i threw this up was well for one i was frustrated and i needed to tell someone.

sry for the post being so long, i needed to give the full story as so to prevent accusations of being some kinda thug or something, me my mother and my father are law-abiding citizens.

my brother on the otherhand....

[SKI]

Originally Posted by Kohaku

the traffic light my dad got from work, it came down in a bad storm and was bashed up pretty bad, the guys from the city said its cheaper for them to replace them then fix em so they gonna throw i out, so my dad asked if he could have it. it meant less work for the workers you know, not having to haul it around, so they gave it to him.

The problem is that the light is not their property to give away. It is owned by the city. Hopefully your dad gets off.