Star SCAR has spring quick change

Blastyman · March 15th, 2008, 18:52

I bought both the VFC and STAR scars for comparision.

Even though the STAR's representation is a bit off compared to VFC's

They both have some nice features like more realistic field stripping. Though the STAR's is better with its quick change barrel system and another neat thing is the quick change spring on the gearbox

I stripped it today. Takes about 30 secs tops.
Gearbox is metal but a very interesting feature.

Quick change spring is possible.
I mean its not as easy as a PTW or even a m249 for that matter but it allows you to change the spring with a couple tools after a basic field strip.

First you undo the big screw that holds the spring guide in its proper postion then you can use a Metric allan key or probably even a flat screwdriver to push in and turn the spring guid to release it.

As you can see there is no bearing on the spring guide. I don't have a bearing spring guide on hand to see if I could swap one on. but I think you have to agree this is a great feature. Also the quick change barrel which takes all of 3 secs is priceless as well.

I am starting to rethinking about selling the STAR one.

Danke · March 15th, 2008, 19:21

Some folks are saying on Arnies that Star has a retro fit kit to bring the stock up the current type. SCAR-H they just released though still has the old version.

Ace of Spades© · March 15th, 2008, 19:47

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Blastyman · March 15th, 2008, 20:59

But besides the cheek peice there are alot of differences.

different body, different method for how the stock folds and locks.
The attachment point at the stock to body is not only different colors but actually different as the star has a long slot good for a sling maybe and the VFC has 2 smaller ones.

The buttstock is straighter on the STAR then VFC. Quite a few things.

But unless you have both side by side its hard to notice.

Just look

VFC is the one on top in first two and on the right in the bottom.

Sergeantmajor · March 15th, 2008, 21:25

which one do you recommend?

ThunderCactus · March 15th, 2008, 23:05

well the STAR version comes with the EGLM right? I mean that's their whole marketing scheme, everyone already has a VFC or CA lol
I wonder why star didnt put the heat sink motor plate on their gun?

Danke · March 15th, 2008, 23:14

Star picked an earlier version of the SCAR to use as their template so there are a few cues that aren't in sync with the the production version.

The only thing I find disspirting about my VFC version is the wiring for the battery. It's like it was done by someone with no idea a battery needed to fit in too. Oh for a cell-phone type battery with contact points!

Cassius · March 15th, 2008, 23:24

I still prefer my VFC after checking your star but I must admit that the wiring for the battery in the stock is stupid. It broke at the last game and we had to resort to removing the fuse and using some tape.

Danke · March 15th, 2008, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius

I still prefer my VFC after checking your star but I must admit that the wiring for the battery in the stock is stupid. It broke at the last game and we had to resort to removing the fuse and using some tape.

I cut the VFC pins out and subbed Prometheus gold pins less the outer casing with a longer wire to the fuse to get rid of that stress riser. I'm going to cut down the battery wires and swap the plugs for Deans. I'll take a shot when it's all done.

ThunderCactus · March 15th, 2008, 23:46

So what your saying is the VFC is better in every way except the wiring?
Well that's fantastic lol
Wiring and internals can always be replaced

How's the mechbox specifically on each gun? are they both standard V2 shells?

Yuu · March 16th, 2008, 00:23

I still wonder if you can use standard replacement gearbox V2 on STAR or VFC.

So far I found the CA gearbox more durable the only reason why I had purchase CA SCAR before, although I had to replace the tappet plate which wasn't really hard.

Blastyman · March 16th, 2008, 00:38

Well pretty much any v2 parts should work in the gear boxes themselves. Obviously though its probably best to keep the STAR spring guide to fit the gearbox correctly though.

Also somebody mentioned it above. The STAR is the AEG with the heat sink. the VFC doesn't have one.

I do agree all in all the quality of the VFC is much higher. Fit and finish is so much better and it just all around tight gun.

Star definately is a good contender though. I love how it field strips in comparision to the VFC. The quick barrel change is awesome. But at the same time I believe that the quick change barrel might affect consistency and accuracy as there is a slight bit of play.

And the spring quick change would be a good feature to have if you only had one airsoft gun and needed to play CQB and outdoor and was changing the FPS a lot.

I think if you could add the few extra niceties of the STAR to the VFC you would have the ultimate SCAR. But you can't. So you have to compromise. For me that means I need to pick the VFC. Though since I have the EGLM I will keep that for the VFC. the VFC with the EGLM is the ticket.

The STAR with the EGLM is actually heavy bitch. The STAR is just such a heavy gun. But the VFC still is quite manageble even with the EGLM.

One other thing I noticed. When the STAR has the EGLM the mags don't come out very easily really some binding. But on the VFC they almost drop out of the magwell like they normally would without the EGLM.

That also is great. Though admitly the EGLM has a slightly tighter fit on the STAR then the VFC. Though that is very understable since it was designed for the STAR. Still a decent fit though and probably better then alot of guys m203's on AR's hehe

ThunderCactus · March 16th, 2008, 01:37

So are the mechbox shells standard V2 or do you not have anything to test it against?
I think it was STAR that's notorious for making custom shells...
I thought you said the VFC was the one on the left it that last pic? lol
Doesn't look like it takes regular replacement base plates either although it looks like you could replace the grip entirely...

IRONSIGHT · March 16th, 2008, 01:38

Another thing to consider is that the STAR uses a standard M4 grip, so all the fancy aftermarket stuff will fit. Although the VFC looks like a standard one on the outside, it sits further away from the mecbox so it is different internally.

Blastyman · March 16th, 2008, 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

So are the mechbox shells standard V2 or do you not have anything to test it against?
I think it was STAR that's notorious for making custom shells...
I thought you said the VFC was the one on the left it that last pic? lol
Doesn't look like it takes regular replacement base plates either although it looks like you could replace the grip entirely...

You are correct I mislabelled that one pic.

No the shells seem pretty much v2. Just with the ambi selector thats all.

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March 15th, 2008, 18:52	#1
Blastyman Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Edmonton ,AB	Star SCAR has spring quick change I bought both the VFC and STAR scars for comparision. Even though the STAR's representation is a bit off compared to VFC's They both have some nice features like more realistic field stripping. Though the STAR's is better with its quick change barrel system and another neat thing is the quick change spring on the gearbox I stripped it today. Takes about 30 secs tops. Gearbox is metal but a very interesting feature. Quick change spring is possible. I mean its not as easy as a PTW or even a m249 for that matter but it allows you to change the spring with a couple tools after a basic field strip. First you undo the big screw that holds the spring guide in its proper postion then you can use a Metric allan key or probably even a flat screwdriver to push in and turn the spring guid to release it. As you can see there is no bearing on the spring guide. I don't have a bearing spring guide on hand to see if I could swap one on. but I think you have to agree this is a great feature. Also the quick change barrel which takes all of 3 secs is priceless as well. I am starting to rethinking about selling the STAR one.

March 15th, 2008, 20:59	#4
Blastyman Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Edmonton ,AB	But besides the cheek peice there are alot of differences. different body, different method for how the stock folds and locks. The attachment point at the stock to body is not only different colors but actually different as the star has a long slot good for a sling maybe and the VFC has 2 smaller ones. The buttstock is straighter on the STAR then VFC. Quite a few things. But unless you have both side by side its hard to notice. Just look VFC is the one on top in first two and on the right in the bottom. Last edited by Blastyman; March 16th, 2008 at 01:56..

March 15th, 2008, 21:25	#5
Sergeantmajor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada	which one do you recommend? __________________ "Lieutenant John Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day. Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast." - ZULU (1964)

March 15th, 2008, 19:21	#2
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Some folks are saying on Arnies that Star has a retro fit kit to bring the stock up the current type. SCAR-H they just released though still has the old version.

March 15th, 2008, 23:05	#6
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	well the STAR version comes with the EGLM right? I mean that's their whole marketing scheme, everyone already has a VFC or CA lol I wonder why star didnt put the heat sink motor plate on their gun?

March 15th, 2008, 23:14	#7
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Star picked an earlier version of the SCAR to use as their template so there are a few cues that aren't in sync with the the production version. The only thing I find disspirting about my VFC version is the wiring for the battery. It's like it was done by someone with no idea a battery needed to fit in too. Oh for a cell-phone type battery with contact points!

March 15th, 2008, 23:24	#8
Cassius Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Canada	I still prefer my VFC after checking your star but I must admit that the wiring for the battery in the stock is stupid. It broke at the last game and we had to resort to removing the fuse and using some tape. __________________ WE AIN'T DEAD

March 15th, 2008, 23:46	#10
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	So what your saying is the VFC is better in every way except the wiring? Well that's fantastic lol Wiring and internals can always be replaced How's the mechbox specifically on each gun? are they both standard V2 shells?

March 16th, 2008, 00:38	#12
Blastyman Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Edmonton ,AB	Well pretty much any v2 parts should work in the gear boxes themselves. Obviously though its probably best to keep the STAR spring guide to fit the gearbox correctly though. Also somebody mentioned it above. The STAR is the AEG with the heat sink. the VFC doesn't have one. I do agree all in all the quality of the VFC is much higher. Fit and finish is so much better and it just all around tight gun. Star definately is a good contender though. I love how it field strips in comparision to the VFC. The quick barrel change is awesome. But at the same time I believe that the quick change barrel might affect consistency and accuracy as there is a slight bit of play. And the spring quick change would be a good feature to have if you only had one airsoft gun and needed to play CQB and outdoor and was changing the FPS a lot. I think if you could add the few extra niceties of the STAR to the VFC you would have the ultimate SCAR. But you can't. So you have to compromise. For me that means I need to pick the VFC. Though since I have the EGLM I will keep that for the VFC. the VFC with the EGLM is the ticket. The STAR with the EGLM is actually heavy bitch. The STAR is just such a heavy gun. But the VFC still is quite manageble even with the EGLM. One other thing I noticed. When the STAR has the EGLM the mags don't come out very easily really some binding. But on the VFC they almost drop out of the magwell like they normally would without the EGLM. That also is great. Though admitly the EGLM has a slightly tighter fit on the STAR then the VFC. Though that is very understable since it was designed for the STAR. Still a decent fit though and probably better then alot of guys m203's on AR's hehe Last edited by Blastyman; March 16th, 2008 at 00:41..

March 16th, 2008, 01:37	#13
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	So are the mechbox shells standard V2 or do you not have anything to test it against? I think it was STAR that's notorious for making custom shells... I thought you said the VFC was the one on the left it that last pic? lol Doesn't look like it takes regular replacement base plates either although it looks like you could replace the grip entirely...

March 16th, 2008, 01:38	#14
IRONSIGHT Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mount Albert (North of Toronto)	Another thing to consider is that the STAR uses a standard M4 grip, so all the fancy aftermarket stuff will fit. Although the VFC looks like a standard one on the outside, it sits further away from the mecbox so it is different internally.

Star SCAR has spring quick change

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