Ares g36k Upgrade

[prepaidpwnage]

I just ordered an ares/star g36k after extensive research. I will be looking to upgrade it this summer and as it is my first upgrade I would like some advice on parts and other tips. I've watched just about every mechbox.com video. Since it has a quick spring change I can open and close it without the spring, which I think will make the upgrading a piece of cake. But chances are that Im wrong. Also, it uses a version 2 gearbox instead of a version 3 like most g36s


Right now i'm looking at the following and doing it in two stages.

Stage 1
-Modify Smooth Gears(modular, pre shimmed with bushings)
-G&P polyacetal piston
-Systema Duracon Pistonhead
-G&G 6.04mm tightbore 357mm
-guarder version 2 cylinder head
-maybe a madbull spring depending on what my fps hits after the upgrade

stage 2
-trigger master Version 3 fire control unit
-Deans connectors

[Amos]

If I were you I'd stick to all one brand of parts.. that way you know everthing will mesh properly.

Modify makes some damn good pistons, piston heads, and cylinder heads (Theirs are 1 CNC'd piece instead of 2 pieces like guarder's)

... Modify also makes awesome springs..

Aaand I don't see why deans should be a stage 2 upgrade... it's only like.. 2.50 per side of deans connectors and they're super quick to install.

As for barrel... I'd go with Prometheus or Madbull... I haven't had very good luck with G&G things..

[The Saint]

Ares/Star are weird guns. Most stock guns aren't known for amazing hopup performance out of the box, but Ares/Star have been known to get some unusually long range and accuracy. I'd recommend not touching the inner barrel or hopup unit, and test the gun first.

[prepaidpwnage]

Thanks for quick and helpful responses

*edit Ok, ill leave the4 barrel/ hop up alone. thanks for the advice *end edit*
The reason i was gonna save the deans till stage two is so that i wont install them and wire my gun to the rear and then have to take it all apart later to put the trigger master in.

so if i order from two stores I'd be looking at this:
-Modify Smooth gears
-Modify PolyCarbonate Piston(full teeth)
-modify polycarbonate reinforced piston head
-Modify Spring(not sure what strength to get)

[The Saint]

I recommend a replacement motor, Ares/Star motors ain't that great. I recommend G&P, cheap and good.

As for the spring, it depends what your G36 ends up shooting stock and what you want it to be shooting.

[prepaidpwnage]

It comes with a high torque motor stock. I would like to stick with that unless I have to change.

If I were to end up getting an M120 should I have the torque up Gears? Is there a problem with torque up gears and slower springs because I was going to down grade my spring every winter to put less stress on the gearbox. They are the same price, so I figure why not get the torque up, but I'm it's my first upgrade....I've read some stuff on the boards about it, but could never figure out what would happen if you used high torque with an m110.


Thanks for all the help.

*edit* can a version two mechbox handle an m120, or should i just try to get the best compression I can and not upgrade the spring? *endedit*

[prepaidpwnage]

sorry to double post but,


could i buy an ftk for an m4 which is also a version 2 mech box and just use my loading nozzle?

[The Saint]

Yep. You'll need to use your stock loading nozzle and your stock spring guide.

[Erennert]

I may be wrong, but shouldn't he get a Piston head with only 7 or so teeth, so that if it does fail, its a cheap part instead of another very expensive part?

[prepaidpwnage]

i was looking at either the regular modify piston, or the ultra one that has 7 metal teeth.

also it was just brought to my attention that it is actually a version 3 gearbox. I can't believe it after reading on so many stores that its a version 2, but he has pics so it must be true.

[prepaidpwnage]

Gun showed up yesterday, and its better than what everyone has said.

Does anyone know the bushing size. One member said they thought it was a 7mm, but I wanted to make sure.
Could I use a Modify AUG FTK and just buy a g36 loading nozzle? I ask this because the store near me only have the bore up g36 kits, and I don't need a bore up for a stock length barrel.
thanks.

[SHÖCK]

Of course it's a V3 gearbox, just like all AKs, AUGs, and Sig 552s. Why any stores would say it's a V2 is beyond me. That's good for you as the stock V3 mechbox will last instead of being worried about mechbox cracking with stock V2s. Good thing you are on a Canadian airsoft website. You see, because it's so impossible for us to import any guns (and even when we can, it costs 2-3 times as much as it does in the U.S.)...we spend all our time reading about guns intead of actually being able to just buy them LOL. So we are well researched.

V3 gearbox internals are all interchangable (aside from some bits on the outside like the selector plate, specific trigger assemblies, other doodads, etc.)

You can upgrade a G36 with the gears, cylinder, piston, piston head, spring guide, nozzle head, cutoff lever, etc. for an AK, and AUG, etc. but the nozzle is one part you need to get that is specific because each gun has a different hop-up/feeding configuration. I have interchanged parts from an AK kit into a G36 and back into an AUG before.

Your stock bushings should be fine. Yes, they should be 7mm and I believe STAR even has bearing bushings for one set of gears.