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Old October 9th, 2009, 01:53   #1
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TM MEU mag pins stuck

I'm trying to install high flow valves into my mag but the top two pins on my TM MEU mag refuse to budge. I'm using an alan key that has the circumference that is smaller than the circumference of the pin. How do I get them to move?
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Old October 9th, 2009, 02:00   #2
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Try the other side?

One end of the pins has a rough surface, and it wont come out through the side opposite to that. What else are you using than just an allen key? You'll need some sort of hammering object.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 02:01   #3
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Try the other side?

One end of the pins has a rough surface, and it wont come out through the side opposite to that. What else are you using than just an allen key? You'll need some sort of hammering object.
I'm holding the alan key with my hands and pressing it as hard as I can. The mag is on top of a piece of plastic so it is not in contact with the surface I am working on, giving the pin room to slide out.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 02:27   #4
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Oh you definitely gotta hammer it. Pins on mags rarely come out without hammering, I've found.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 02:43   #5
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Oh you definitely gotta hammer it. Pins on mags rarely come out without hammering, I've found.
How gentle am I supposed to be during the hammering? How is the mag positioned so you can get a good bang with minimal movement from anything else that is in contact with that mag?

How did you set the mag up so you could hammer away?
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Old October 9th, 2009, 02:46   #6
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I personally put it atop my legs, or on carpet. Once the pin starts to come out, it will come out easily (generally).

I've put them in a vice before though (with rubber faces/buffers. not metal. that could easily damage the mag).
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Old October 9th, 2009, 02:54   #7
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Yeah dude, pushing on it isn't going to do anything. You need to hammer.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 04:12   #8
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Should I use a vise grip to clamp the mag together while I hammer or something?
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Old October 9th, 2009, 04:32   #9
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Wait a second...

Why are you disassembling the mag to put in a hiflow valve?
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Old October 9th, 2009, 11:06   #10
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Solon, I already told you... you need a valve key to remove and install a high flow valve. Why are you removing pins?!
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Old October 9th, 2009, 11:13   #11
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No offense...but HAHAHAHA...you've got a thread for how to punch out a pin?!?!....to put in a Hi flow valve?!?!?

Slono...(quite serious) you should stop and get someone to show you what to do.

If this is for getting ready for CAPS...a lot of guys have a valve key and it takes just a minute a mag to swap the valves (with no damage). I usually have my in my kit bag. Don't bust your stuff...once a mag leaks from being mangled...you stand a good chance of it not being fixable.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 11:21   #12
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What's funnier, is that Solon was at my place 2 days ago to pick up the mags and valves, and he asks me: "what do I need to install these valves?"

I show him a valve key, and a brand new one that I have in a package, and say "you need one of these bad boys. I'll get you pricing later... haven't looked it up yet."

And he says "okay", and goes on his way...



Solon, you can disassemble the mag to all of it's individual parts, pins & o-rings, but you STILL need a valve key to take the valve out of the shell. LOL.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 11:25   #13
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Now...not to be too hard on the guy. My take is that his heart's in the right place but he's just new to it all. Encouraging to see him run around getting all the bits he needs (it's all just for CAPS...I hope you cut him a good price ).

We've traded a couple of PMs as well about how many mags are needed...why/when you'll need more mags than the minimum. Did he need hiflows in each mag or was there some other way to boost the power...etc...

Good questions all in all. Hope we'll see him at the next CAPS session.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 11:31   #14
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Ya, he hopped on to my recent sale and got everything at a great price.

He'd better be coming out to play, after the amount of PMs we've traded on this subject...
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Old October 9th, 2009, 13:20   #15
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Wait a second...

Why are you disassembling the mag to put in a hiflow valve?
lol, I know its not necessary at all, but I wanted to see what the insides look like. I saw a video of a guy using pinhead pliers to unscrew the valve, but I don't want to do that in case I bust something.

Edit: I made my own valve key from a Mastercraft 4" Tack Lifter. I widened the space between the prongs, and thinned them out as well.
Here's what it looks like now. Please disregard the dummy expression I have on my face =).
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