What and where to buy in Ontario?

[Mike Oxlarge]

Hi all, I am very new to this and am looking for a gun to have around the house. I live on a large property with a lot of wildlife around. Basically I just want the gun for scaring away or deterring vermin or small animals.

So what I am looking for is a smaller gun that has a semi and full auto option. I am currently looking at this one from CDN Tire. http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows...ft%2BRifle.jsp

Since I am taking the gun with me on long walks, I want to make sure it has a shoulder sling and is not too big, so full machine gun replicas are out of the question. Sub Machine guns would work best for me.

I live in the Niagara Region and would like to know of any stores that sell this stuff. I am willing to go to the GTA to look. Optimally, Id like to find a store to go and see the guns and talk to staff. Thanks.

[Donster]

Get a pellet gun. There are canadian pellet gun forums. They shoot MUCH farther and MUCH more accurately than airsoft and are better for scaring away animals than airsoft.

[Mike Oxlarge]

Yeah I thought of that but I like the fact that AS guns can have cartridges and can shoot semi or fully auto. Can pellet guns do that?

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Mike Oxlarge

Yeah I thought of that but I like the fact that AS guns can have cartridges and can shoot semi or fully auto. Can pellet guns do that?

Real airsoft guns do not have cartridges.

Get a pellet gun or a .22

[Mike Oxlarge]

If you can recommend a semi or fully auto pellet gun, Ill buy it. If not, Im getting an airsoft and would appreciate recommendations. Thanks.

[Styrak]

Go ask your local outdoor store who sells pellet guns, about pellet guns.

Or, www.canadianairgunforum.ca

[Crunchmeister]

As already mentioned, AS is a bad, bad choice. They're not particularly accurate at range unless you put a lot of money work upgrading them. A $50 pellet / BB gun from Cdn Tire or other outdoors store (even pistols) will be much, much better than any AS gun for that purpose.

As for a full auto SMG, the only auto SMG BB gun on the market that I know of the is Drodz. It's an electronically controlled CO2 gun which will fire semi auto or bursts.

[xelamander]

wtf do you mean you wanna take your gun for long walks? do that and youre gonna get shot by cops.

[Diabolic Tyrant]

Originally Posted by xelamander

wtf do you mean you wanna take your gun for long walks? do that and youre gonna get shot by cops.

my bad :P

[m102404]

Originally Posted by Mike Oxlarge

Hi all, I am very new to this and am looking for a gun to have around the house. I live on a large property with a lot of wildlife around. Basically I just want the gun for scaring away or deterring vermin or small animals.

So what I am looking for is a smaller gun that has a semi and full auto option. I am currently looking at this one from CDN Tire. http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows...ft%2BRifle.jsp

Since I am taking the gun with me on long walks, I want to make sure it has a shoulder sling and is not too big, so full machine gun replicas are out of the question. Sub Machine guns would work best for me.

I live in the Niagara Region and would like to know of any stores that sell this stuff. I am willing to go to the GTA to look. Optimally, Id like to find a store to go and see the guns and talk to staff. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Mike Oxlarge

Yeah I thought of that but I like the fact that AS guns can have cartridges and can shoot semi or fully auto. Can pellet guns do that?

I really can't believe that anyone here is actually giving any advice to someone who wants an airsoft gun to go on "long walks" to shoot at local wildlife (vermin/pests). Especially when they have a pressing need for one that shoots full auto to do so.

I have no issues with killing animals...vermin/pests/otherwise...be it for protection of health/property/livelyhood/sport. I do take issue when someone shoots at animals to either wound or harrass them.

Kill them because you need to and then do it responsibly when you need to, or don't do it.

I'm not sure on the hunting regulations for your area...but it may be illegal to shoot at any animal with a weapon that is insufficient to humanely kill them. When hunting game, intentionally wounding (being an idiot is not sufficient excuse) an animal is right up there with poaching. Depending on what you crack a burst of shots off at...you may not be shooting at something that is categorized as vermin, but rather small game...and as such you may be subject to a variety of hunting/preservation regulations.

For example, I believe that in the GTA...even though a mouse might be a pest/vermin...you're not allowed to shoot them. You can club them, trap them, step on them, etc....but you're not allow to fire a weapon at them.

If you do not precisely know the legalities of what you're thinking of doing, it is your duty/responsibility to check with you local/municipal bylaws and any applicable hunting/MNR regulations.

[xelamander]

Originally Posted by Diabolic Tyrant

He never once said he was going to take it on walks, and by the sounds of it he lives in the country side if hes worried about animals so the cops seeing him would be slim to none (Im not encouraging that people walk around with AS). Dont be putting words in peoples mouths Xelamander.

dude did you even read his first post in full? did you understand it?

[shiftsup]

Mike Oxlarge, you really shouldn't bother with carrying any gun whatsoever on your "long walks". Having been on long walks myself, I honestly cannot think of one reason why you would need to scare a small animal with a real / pellet / airsoft / bb rifle.

If small animals bother you that much just stay inside.

EDIT: This thread is a joke right?

[Diabolic Tyrant]

Originally Posted by xelamander

dude did you even read his first post in full? did you understand it?

My bad i didnt see the long walks part, i read over it twice :P sorry

[KoolAidMan]

get a pellet gun that what i used when our house and the nieghboors had giant rats out in the backyards. i mean close to a small cat sized rats

[Short Round]

For pellet guns I'd suggest D&L Airgun

http://www.dlairgun.com/Home.html

Got a P99B off the site for a very reasonable price.