WE AK steel trigger group installation guide

turok_t · March 21st, 2012, 23:55

That part breaks all the time, i fixed three AK's with the same problem already.. your best bet is to get the steel upgrade kit.

Brayden · March 22nd, 2012, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilanWG

I stripped part 99 (where the grub screw goes into).

Can someone recommend where to find a replacement?
Would be much appreciated - thanks.

You'd prolly have to msg WE since the gun is so new. But you could re-thread for a larger screw couldn't you?

Brayden · March 22nd, 2012, 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilanWG

Its kind of bad - I don't think there is much to re-thread.

I will post a pic.

What is WETTI's contact info?

Not sure but possibly fill with JB weld and use a screw with less threads, not sure if it'll work but probably worth a go if its scrapped anyways.

N_Force · April 9th, 2012, 11:38

just got the RA trigger set and installed in my ak74, so disappointed on ra-tech this time. this upgrade parts are out of spec on the trigger and the sear. they'll work but not smooth enough. I spent 2 hours to modify them to make them run smoother. ra parts on m4 are way better.

difference between two AK Sear, top-org, bottom-RA

difference between two AK trigger, left-org, right-RA

Strelok · April 9th, 2012, 13:03

I've got a WE AK PMC coming in the mail. How fragile is the stock trigger group? Just curious if I should be wary of plinking with the thing. Haha.

Also, curious. Is there a chance you can buy the steel set pre-assembled?

Brian McIlmoyle · April 9th, 2012, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strelok

I've got a WE AK PMC coming in the mail. How fragile is the stock trigger group? Just curious if I should be wary of plinking with the thing. Haha.

Also, curious. Is there a chance you can buy the steel set pre-assembled?

They are not Fragile.. they are in my opinion designed to fail.. so that RA-Tech can sell the steel replacements. It's a little suspect to see the gun and the steel replacement parts released virtually at the same time...

the cost of this gun is .. Stock from WE Plus the RA-tech steel trigger group.

The install is not difficult but you do need to pay attention when you take the original out to ensure you put the various springs back in correctly.

seems like come people are having issues with out of Spec parts from RA-Tech.. mine was flawless .. and works really well.

Brayden · April 9th, 2012, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strelok

I've got a WE AK PMC coming in the mail. How fragile is the stock trigger group? Just curious if I should be wary of plinking with the thing. Haha.

Also, curious. Is there a chance you can buy the steel set pre-assembled?

I would advise to not shoot it much and switch the parts out for RA tech ASAP, I got unlucky and while firing bbs through it a sear snapped caused the gun to misfire and broke the firing pin and the nozzle where it feeds the bb in.

turok_t · April 9th, 2012, 17:59

In response to Nforce, yes, they are made severely out of spec, however, as with Brian McIlmoyle, the trigger set works flawlessy for me as well after some fine tuning. The trigger set didn't need any wearing in for me, it works perfectly after proper installation and greasing. The biggest flaw is the rear of the sear not having sufficient contact with the fire lever which causes the gun to fire full auto on semi due to minimal contact and vibration of the gun...this is further exacerbated since the selector plate is slightly thinner than the stock counterpart which makes it worst. Also, the other flaw is the grub screw hole in the fire selector lever... the extra room in the hole will cause the selector plate to become loose and rotate during firing, especially given the recoil of the gun... Here it is:

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=136369

PM me for more info on how to rectify these issues....

msg me for details on how to rectify these issues..

N_Force · April 9th, 2012, 21:50

you can see how bad it is!! top is org, bottom is ratech.

that's why (the pic from turok_t) you can see the sear moves forward a bit(it's not shorter). that's causing problem when you shoot in semi, pull and hold the trigger, during bolt carrier travel back, pushing hammer back at the same time and hit the sear in exceeding pressure. form time to time it could break the hammer.

turok_t · April 9th, 2012, 22:03

If you compare the the rear of the sear, it is much shorter on the RATech compared to stock..its not because its moved forward, i compared just the sear side by side and the length that prutrudes out is insufficient for the selector lever to hold down. There is no issue on SEMI, its only in AUTO that creates the issue since the contact between the selector lever and the rear portion of the sear does have not have good contact.

N_Force · April 9th, 2012, 23:10

no matter what, we are here to fix up ra-tech problems but got no pay, lol.
my bottom line is, as I'm an end-user for those gbbr, I use my feel, touch and seeing to make my modify for practical shooting. gbb and me are in one. so it has to be working smooth and efficiency. regular game may not need this requirement or standard. I'm just a bit too picky.

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April 9th, 2012, 11:38	#19
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	just got the RA trigger set and installed in my ak74, so disappointed on ra-tech this time. this upgrade parts are out of spec on the trigger and the sear. they'll work but not smooth enough. I spent 2 hours to modify them to make them run smoother. ra parts on m4 are way better. difference between two AK Sear, top-org, bottom-RA difference between two AK trigger, left-org, right-RA __________________ aka Uncle Last edited by N_Force; April 9th, 2012 at 11:46..

April 9th, 2012, 21:50	#24
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	you can see how bad it is!! top is org, bottom is ratech. that's why (the pic from turok_t) you can see the sear moves forward a bit(it's not shorter). that's causing problem when you shoot in semi, pull and hold the trigger, during bolt carrier travel back, pushing hammer back at the same time and hit the sear in exceeding pressure. form time to time it could break the hammer. __________________ aka Uncle Last edited by N_Force; April 9th, 2012 at 23:11..

April 9th, 2012, 23:10	#26
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	no matter what, we are here to fix up ra-tech problems but got no pay, lol. my bottom line is, as I'm an end-user for those gbbr, I use my feel, touch and seeing to make my modify for practical shooting. gbb and me are in one. so it has to be working smooth and efficiency. regular game may not need this requirement or standard. I'm just a bit too picky. __________________ aka Uncle

March 21st, 2012, 23:55	#16
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	That part breaks all the time, i fixed three AK's with the same problem already.. your best bet is to get the steel upgrade kit.

April 9th, 2012, 13:03	#20
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	I've got a WE AK PMC coming in the mail. How fragile is the stock trigger group? Just curious if I should be wary of plinking with the thing. Haha. Also, curious. Is there a chance you can buy the steel set pre-assembled?

April 9th, 2012, 17:59	#23
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	In response to Nforce, yes, they are made severely out of spec, however, as with Brian McIlmoyle, the trigger set works flawlessy for me as well after some fine tuning. The trigger set didn't need any wearing in for me, it works perfectly after proper installation and greasing. The biggest flaw is the rear of the sear not having sufficient contact with the fire lever which causes the gun to fire full auto on semi due to minimal contact and vibration of the gun...this is further exacerbated since the selector plate is slightly thinner than the stock counterpart which makes it worst. Also, the other flaw is the grub screw hole in the fire selector lever... the extra room in the hole will cause the selector plate to become loose and rotate during firing, especially given the recoil of the gun... Here it is: http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=136369 PM me for more info on how to rectify these issues.... msg me for details on how to rectify these issues..

April 9th, 2012, 22:03	#25
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	If you compare the the rear of the sear, it is much shorter on the RATech compared to stock..its not because its moved forward, i compared just the sear side by side and the length that prutrudes out is insufficient for the selector lever to hold down. There is no issue on SEMI, its only in AUTO that creates the issue since the contact between the selector lever and the rear portion of the sear does have not have good contact.

WE AK steel trigger group installation guide

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